Trump says he bombed Iran

[IDELB2006]

Far from it.

But you dont adopt demon Lilith as an avatar without Jewish + feminism + optional zionism. You can even cry for the Indians Palestinian Sheppards moved 1.8 miles for the illegal kibbutz settling on contested territory. 

And it  makes for strange allies and sensitivity to any perceived "antisemitism." I feel its used to frame Israel as the true terrorists all along and rebrabd the same thing. 

They want me to shift focus to the Israel oppressed Palestinians, but i still think the real oppression is how Iran or Hamas treats their own, steals Israeli aid and gives it out based on loyalty (in Gaza), militarizes the populace from birth, and blames Israel and The USA for making them do it. 

But my position is far from world consensus, or even Israeli consensus, and only happens to side with the populist zionist echo chambers now.  

I was the same when only 1/4 of America bitched about zionist influence and it was still mostly Muslims and White Supremacists fearing the USA/Israel "ZOG" alliance.

If we attacked Iran for Israel now, it also means our 45+ year track record of Iran opposition, disgust at sharia oppression, constant spycraft, sanctions, and isolation tactics was always primarily on Israel's behalf. 

And far less had a problem opposing Iran on Israel's behalf before these otherwise terrible administrations pulled the trigger.  That factors something. It might have more to do with how detestable Trump/Bibi are together in their respective countries than anything else. 

Like its news we keep strong military/intelligence ties with Israel to retain NON-MUSLIM interests in Jerusalem and an uncontestable foothold to break up the Waqf. It's transparency to finally own up to it. 

Now everyone knows: US makes sure Israel exists amd thrives to break up the muslim holyland monopoly. 

It's just become more acceptable and right to get offended by that now. Israel are the real terrorists for moving those Sheppards off disputed land. Even 80-90% of democrats now have an unfavorable opinion of Israel.  Propaganda might argue both ways. 

So the echo chamber AGAINST israel actually won worldwide and Trump helped solidify it.

Sure, but what does that have to do with giving a member a hard time over a link to an X post.

[DBCowboy]

Sure, but what does that have to do with giving a member a hard time over a link to an X post.

If you posted memes and screen shots from nazi groups supporting your stance on Israel, um, what conclusion would be reached?

[andy06shake]

Day 101 of Trump's ""not war"", ceasefire, stop shooting at each other, bad Bibi, you would be in jail without me, ""war."" 

[DBCowboy]

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Day 101 of Trump's ""not war"", ceasefire, stop shooting at each other, bad Bibi, you would be in jail without me, ""war."" 

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I love how the Trump haters are counting the days of the war.

Did you do that for the Fauklands, or any other war?

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[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Sure, but what does that have to do with giving a member a hard time over a link to an X post.

Mostly? A failed attempt to call out a deliberate false narrative that uses rebranded antisemitism tropes, turns them into progressive post-colonialism, reasserts the underdog are militants, and demonizes Israel without fair context provided. 

As far as the specific poster, i will no longer "moderate" anyone outside standard measures, nor discuss the in-depth reasons that led to my unilateral action to engage with them for it. I was offended. Let's say that. 

I do regret it in retrospect, when I could have let them speak without my quips, and done my own thread, which I did anyway, to clarify my hostility towards the new consensus opinion on Israel..

Otherwise, See this thread for my prompted AI argument.

[andy06shake]

I love how the Trump haters are counting the days of the war.

Did you do that for the Fauklands, or any other war?

 

Do you mean the Falklands?

I think we did, i was about 7.

Would you prefer we simply forget?

Don't you imagine that counting the days helps people understand how long a conflict has lasted?

Why should people not wish to track its progress?

Never mind the simple fact that doing so provides historical context. 

We know how long WW-1 & WW-2 lasted.

Same with Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1 & 2, Afghanistan...

Why should Trump's war, not war, with Iran be any different?

Then there is the fact that he promised not to get the US into any new wars.

[DBCowboy]

 xt. 

We know how long WW-1 & WW-2 lasted.

Same with Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1 & 2, Afghanistan...

Why should Trump's war, not war, with Iran be any different?

Because no one used to stand there with a calendar and a watch and say, times up!

[andy06shake]

Because no one used to stand there with a calendar and a watch and say, times up!

I wish it were that simple, DB.

Ideally, Trump could keep the KFC, sorry UFC, fighting cage outside, on the White House lawn.

And just offer the new Ayatollah a square go to sort out the entire shebang.

Two men enter, one man leaves style. 

I mean i would pay to view that... 

But the world is not that simple.

More's the pity, really, and if only it were that easy.

[DBCowboy]

I wish it were that simple, DB.

Ideally, Trump could keep the KFC, sorry UFC, fighting cage outside, on the White House lawn.

And just offer the new Ayatollah a square go to sort out the entire shebang.

Two men enter, one man leaves style. 

I mean i would pay to view that... 

But the world is not that simple.

More is the pity, really.

ONLY the left is keeping a calendar and stopwatch on the Iran conflict.

And it's because of Trump.

If Obama or Biden or Harris had attacked Iran, even you'd be wearing red, white, and blue.

[andy06shake]

ONLY the left is keeping a calendar and stopwatch on the Iran conflict.

And it's because of Trump.

If Obama or Biden or Harris had attacked Iran, even you'd be wearing red, white, and blue.

Naw mate, plenty of Trump's own base are keeping score...

And they are clearly not happy with what they see or the results.

Again, look at your own polls. 

And Obama and Biden did not attack Iran, so little point in playing what-ifs there.

They were not stupid enouth, the same with other former POTUS who chose to avoid direct conflict with religious fundamentalist maniacs.