(05-27-2026, 05:34 AM)Orby Wrote: You are trying to sidetrack the subjuect of Iran gaining nukes, by comparing this hotheaded primitive society to those of the west.
What makes you believe that Iran was trying to get nukes?
US Intelligence, the UN and other International monitoring agencies have ALL recently said that there is no sign that that Iran has been developing nuclear weapons.
Only Israel and Trump are saying that Iran is a nuclear threat.
Quote:Who gives a monkeys if Ozzies get the nukes.
If every man and his dog gets nukes, then surely it makes it more likely that someone some time will use them.
That might include the USA or its allies, too!
MAGAts already think that one half of
their own country is plotting violence and death against the other half. Surely you have to admit that can't be a sign of national stability and level headedness?
Why should anyone in the world (including your own country) assume that doesn't pose great danger from the nukes, to the world in the near future?
Quote:Sure it best to keep it to ourself the big 5 SC members plus the Indians as they are a great power and semi sensible and Israeli's as there people invented them.
No human, or team,
invented nuclear science.
It's discovery was a very international effort, with everyone learning bits and sharing what they've found with everyone else working in the field.
The Manhattan Project didn't invent the 'magic recipe'. Like any engineering project, it could have been done in lots of different ways. They tried in lots of ways that didn't work. Some did. Some, they never even tried.
Definitely, most of the Uranium used by the Manhattan Project came from the Belgian Congo. Because the USA has stuff-all of its own Uranium.
Quote:Nobody in the third world is deserved of the technology.
Science and technology aren't a 'national' thing. They are iterative processes, ones that have vast and diverse contributors.
Weapons, on the other hand, are something that no-one these days should really need. Societies who still need weapons everywhere, are primitive ones.
Quote:When the Africaaners gave there nation away to the bantus they knew this.
They didn't. Apartheid ended by the pressure of international sanctions and peaceful internal political pressure.
Quote:They knew you couldn't trust a primitive society with nukes, so they gave them back to TPTB.
De Klerk had SA's nukes disassembled and destroyed prior to signing the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) in 1991. They were not given away. The International Atomic Energy Agency verified it.
Quote:Similar was Kazach, also Ukraine gave them away for many reasons and they weren't a real nation anyway for the longterm just a flash in the pan experimental regime.
The Khazar Empire fell in the year 930, when they converted to Judaism.
Khazars - Wikipedia
Ukraine existed
before the USSR. Ancient Kievan Rus' had its capital in Kiev, Ukraine - Ukraine was the capital of Russia.
But Ukraine did give the nukes away that had been left there after the USSR fell, to Russia. Ukraine also joined the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
Quote: Only the PTB can have nukes, especially ones that play ball. There is no way the Mullahs can be allowed nukes. Whatever you think of Don and Pete, at least they are doing something.
Sure they did something, they started a war.
* Killing people is bad.
* Killing lots of people is very, very bad.
* Nuclear weapons are very, very bad, because they kill lots of people.
* Wars are very, very bad because they kill lots of people.
So, Starting wars, and having nukes, are very, very, very bad.
Therefore, Don and Pete are...???
Quote:Unlike those previous idiots who thought you can deal with a regime that perpetrate 7/10 Argentinian welfare centre, state sponsored terror around the world. Whatever you believe, to me and countless people around the world we think Don and Pete are the best thing since sliced bread.
Should the also be stored in plastic bags and thrown out if they start getting moldy?