Trump says he bombed Iran

[quintessentone]

Buddy, they were all carrying wooden crosses ffs...

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/nAADJMrK_OM]

How many do you imagine could tell you what the inside of a church or chapel looks like? 

But i suppose we are beginning to drift off topic.

My fault, i do apologise... 

So on that note. 

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxnSPjG-RHM]

Xi Jinping to the rescue?

How can Xi fix this? Russia already tried and Iran told them plainly that they will not give up their nuclear capabilities that are used for civilian purposes nor should they be forced to.

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"Iran maintains that its nuclear program is exclusively for peaceful, civilian purposes and insists it has an inalienable right to enrich uranium on its own soil under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).  Tehran argues that it should not be denied technology available to other NPT signatories and views indigenous enrichment as a structural pillar of national sovereignty and scientific advancement. 
However, Iran has consistently stated it does not want to build nuclear weapons, citing Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei’s fatwa against weapons of mass destruction.  Despite this, the U.S. and other Western powers distrust Tehran’s assurances, arguing that any enrichment capability, even at low levels, provides a path to nuclear weapons and demanding the complete dismantlement of Iran’s enrichment infrastructure. 

• Iran's Position: Enrichment is necessary for civilian energy production and as a hedge against fuel supply disruptions; abandoning it would be viewed domestically as national humiliation. 
  
• U.S. Position: The Trump administration demands zero enrichment and the destruction of centrifuges, allowing Iran to import fuel instead. 
  
• Diplomatic Stalemate: Negotiations often fail because Iran refuses to go beyond the limits of the 2015 JCPOA, while the U.S. insists on more stringent restrictions." (LLM)
  

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Maybe Iran's acceptance of national humiliation has a price that China can pay, hmm?

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/27/middleeas...asons-intl

[andy06shake]

How can Xi fix this?

Superglue? 

[quintessentone]

Superglue? 

China can weather this oil/gas shortage storm because they have reserves, what's in it for them to fix it when they can simply buy oil/gas from other countries? But they don't have to because Chinese oil tankers are still moving freely through the Strait of Hormuz, of course not up to the levels prior to the war, but it is reported than after they have diversified their import strategies they are only down 2.8% in import quantity, while Iran has lost a greater percentage of oil export quantities to China by their actions.

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"To mitigate these impacts, China has leveraged its "double-insurance" strategy, which combines massive strategic stockpiles (covering 120 days of net imports) with accelerated sourcing from alternative regions.  In early 2026, China offset Middle Eastern losses by increasing crude imports from Russia by 13% and purchasing record amounts of Brazilian crude, while also utilizing overland pipelines from Central Asia and the Middle East via the Fujairah pipeline to bypass maritime chokepoints. (LLM)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-01/h.../106625732

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If Xi continues to diversify away from Iran, could this move not be enough for Iran to change their course of action considering China is the dominant customer of their oil?

Edit to add:

China could significantly play a part in Iran's move away from nuclear energy goals and into the advanced electric infrastructure. If Iran's only issue is other nations invading their sovereign nation, then perhaps China can exert their power and/or offer security measures as well and perhaps Trump can exert his power to stop sending the means for Israel to continue their Zionist genocidal expansion in that region.

"Future Path: The regime faces a choice between rebuilding a civilian complex—a process that will take years and be extraordinarily expensive under constant surveillance—or continuing to use its remaining nuclear materials and conventional capabilities (missiles, drones, proxies) for regional influence. " (LLM)

https://thebulletin.org/2025/07/time-for...lear-deal/

[David64]

Israel has Nukes. Iran doesn’t. 

Can you actually prove either of those claims ?

No one else can, so I'd be interested to know your sources.

[quintessentone]

Israel continues bombing violence in South Lebanon residential areas under the truce/ceasefire(?).




Does this blast by Iran in Israel look like a mushroom cloud to anyone else beside me?

Iran has not come forward saying it was their strike on this military target.




"Surface and Near-Surface Bursts These detonations produce the iconic mushroom cloud with a distinct stem and cap.  The explosion creates a superheated fireball that rises rapidly due to buoyancy, sucking up debris and dust from the ground to form the stem.  As the hot gases rise, they encounter resistance from cooler surrounding air and eventually the tropopause (the boundary between the troposphere and stratosphere).  At this stable layer, the cloud flattens into a wide, horizontal cap.  High-yield thermonuclear weapons (hydrogen bombs) create massive, flat clouds because their fireballs rise high enough to hit the tropopause, whereas lower-yield fission weapons may produce smaller, less flattened clouds." (LLM)

https://interestingengineering.com/scien...b-blows-up

[Orby]

Yeah, but fewer people.

60,000 people attended racist Tommy ten names Unite the Kingdom march in London yesterday.

That's down from 130,000 last time around...

Good. It did look like a smaller crowd. Hopefully it will all wither away and the 60k there can go do a days work with 800,000 unfilled Care work positions that we rely on migrants  to do. Lazy yobs

[andy06shake]

Can you actually prove either of those claims ?

No one else can, so I'd be interested to know your sources.

Obviously not irrefutable proof that Israel possesses a working nuclear weapon.  




Just a short 10-minute video, about alleged whistleblower "Mordechai Vanunu."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu

[quintessentone]

Obviously not irrefutable proof that Israel possesses a working nuclear weapon.  

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFmp-RP34ws]

Just a short 10-minute video, about alleged whistleblower "Mordechai Vanunu."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu

If nothing else, history shows Israel was more than interested in nuclear weapons and testing.

"France and Israel maintained a deep, secret nuclear partnership from 1949 to 1966, during which French assistance was instrumental in establishing Israel’s nuclear capabilities and facilitating its access to nuclear testing data.  This cooperation was driven by shared strategic interests following the Suez Crisis of 1956, where France agreed to help Israel build the Dimona nuclear reactor in exchange for military coordination. 
Key Aspects of the Cooperation

• Scientific and Technical Exchange: Israeli scientists worked alongside their French counterparts at the Saclay Nuclear Research Centre in the early 1950s.  French experts assisted in the design of the Dimona reactor, built by the French company Saint-Gobain Nucleaire (SGN), and provided access to critical nuclear test data. 
  
• Joint Testing Observations: During France’s nuclear tests in the Algerian Sahara (1960–1966), Israeli scientists served as observers with unrestricted access to explosion data.  This collaboration was so extensive that some historians argue the 1960 French test effectively made two nuclear powers, not one.
  
• Weapon Design Transfer: Israel likely utilized French weapon designs, such as the AN-11 bomb, tested in 1962.  Israel did not conduct a recognized public nuclear test, relying instead on the data and technology shared by France, though speculation persists regarding a possible secret test or the 1979 Vela incident. 
  

End of CooperationThe partnership cooled significantly after Charles de Gaulle returned to the French presidency.  De Gaulle was critical of Israel’s role in the Suez Crisis and sought to normalize relations with Arab states. Consequently, French nuclear assistance to Israel ended in 1966, though the Dimona reactor and reprocessing plant had already been completed, laying the foundation for Israel’s subsequent nuclear arsenal." (LLM)

https://carnegie.ru/commentary/82790

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"On September 22, 1979, an American VELA satellite detected a mysterious "double flash" of light over the Indian Ocean near South Africa’s Prince Edward Island, an event widely known as the Vela Incident.  Declassified documents and expert analysis indicate that this was likely a joint nuclear test conducted by Israel and apartheid-era South Africa, marking Israel's only suspected nuclear detonation. 
Key details of the collaboration include:

• The Test: The flash was detected by the VELA 6911 satellite, and subsequent scientific analysis by multiple experts, including former CIA Director Stansfield Turner and physicist Wolfgang Panofsky, suggested the signal was consistent with a nuclear explosion rather than a technical malfunction or meteoroid. 
  
• Mutual Exchange: The partnership was driven by mutual needs: Israel provided technical expertise and military support to South Africa’s nuclear program, while South Africa supplied Israel with yellowcake uranium (processed natural uranium oxide), a critical resource Israel lacked. 
  
• Political Context: The test occurred in violation of a secret 1969 agreement between Israel and the U.S., and it was deliberately obscured by the American administration to avoid complicating foreign policy relations with both nations during the Cold War. 
  
• Historical Outcome: South Africa later dismantled its own nuclear arsenal in the early 1990s, becoming the first nation to voluntarily relinquish nuclear weapons it independently developed, while Israel maintains a policy of nuclear opacity, neither confirming nor denying possession of nuclear weapons." (LLM)
  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident

[IDELB2006]

And it's not about our higher prices at the pumps. We are at the mercy of a global fluctuation there. American oil companies can be opportunistic while Gulf companies that export to mostly other countries are the ones impacted most. 

From an America first perspective (that overlooks the prices its people actually pay) its beneficial to our petroleum industrial complex! And that in itself is a bargaining chip to every country depending on exports through that strait..

So its fitting to "Absolutely care the strait gets reopened" while also not really needing that to happen immediately. When from the view at the top, national selfish interests aren't impacted enough to NEED it to be quick anyway.

That's just it. It is clear there are multiple classes of Americans, and if you aren't in the Epstein class, you don't matter. 

With higher oil prices, comes higher prices on everything else. And some people are fooled into believing there taxes have been cut, when the truth is, the savings have been shifted to tarifs, and oil.

[andy06shake]

That's just it. It is clear there are multiple classes of Americans, and if you aren't in the Epstein class, you don't matter. 

With higher oil prices, comes higher prices on everything else. And some people are fooled into believing there taxes have been cut, when the truth is, the savings have been shifted to tarifs, and oil.

Certainly illustrates the notion that accountability fails upward...