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(05-15-2026, 07:26 AM)govshill2 Wrote: as like "feelz" and "feltz"? 
Well, if one takes into account how the USA is aiding and abetting Israel's genocidal war crimes throughout that region, then what is being felt are bombs on targets like a little girls' school and many more civilian targets.
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"Yes, according to multiple reports, Israel and the United States have targeted civilian sites in Iran during the conflict that began on February 28, 2026. - Civilian Infrastructure Attacks: Reports indicate that US-Israeli strikes have hit approximately 90,000 civilian sites, including hospitals, schools, universities, and residential buildings. A notable incident involved the strike on an elementary girls’ school in Minab, which reportedly killed over 170 people, mostly children.
- Essential Services: Attacks have also targeted water desalination plants, power grids, and industrial facilities like steel plants and pharmaceutical factories in cities such as Isfahan and Farokhshahr.
- International Condemnation: The UN and human rights organizations have condemned these actions, noting that targeting protected civilian infrastructure under international humanitarian law may constitute war crimes. Iran’s Foreign Minister has accused the US and Israel of deliberately targeting civilian sites to exact a heavy price" (LLM)
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"Organizations such as Genocide Watch, the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention, and BADIL have issued formal warnings or alerts labeling the situation as genocide or an early stage of genocidal activity. They cite several factors: - Statements by Israeli Officials: Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and other officials have made public statements threatening the destruction of Beirut’s southern suburbs (Dahiya) and entire villages, with Smotrich explicitly stating that Dahiya would soon "look like Khan Younis," a city in Gaza heavily destroyed by Israeli bombardment.
- Mass Displacement and Destruction: Critics point to the forced displacement of over 700,000 to 1 million civilians from southern Lebanon and the systematic destruction of homes (described as domicide) in border villages like Taybeh, Naqoura, and Deir Seryan, which they argue is intended to render areas uninhabitable.
- Civilian Casualties and Infrastructure: Reports indicate hundreds of thousands of displaced people, significant civilian deaths (with some sources citing over 1,500 killed since March 2026), and the targeting of hospitals, healthcare workers, and civilian infrastructure.
- Historical Precedent: The Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982 is frequently referenced, with the MacBride Commission concluding that the events constituted genocide and that Israel bore responsibility.
Israel’s Position and Counter-ArgumentsIsrael maintains that its military operations are lawful acts of self-defense against Hezbollah, which it designates as a terrorist organization. Key points of Israel’s stance include: - Targeting Military Infrastructure: Israel asserts that it targets Hezbollah’s military capabilities, command centers, and weapons caches, arguing that Hezbollah embeds itself within civilian areas.
- Evacuation Orders: The IDF states that evacuation orders are issued to protect civilians by directing them away from conflict zones, although critics argue these orders are often issued with insufficient time and to areas that are not safe.
- Denial of Genocidal Intent: Israel and its supporters, including some Western governments, reject the term "genocide," arguing that there is no intent to destroy the Lebanese people as a group, but rather a military objective to degrade Hezbollah’s ability to attack Israel.
- International Law Compliance: Israel claims it adheres to international humanitarian law, including distinguishing between military targets and civilians, though it faces accusations of indiscriminate attacks and war crimes from organizations like Human Rights Watch. " (LLM)
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(05-15-2026, 07:19 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: You seem to be calling for genocide? 
Oh yeah, here we go, the usual nonsense. Go get your khaffiya on, grab your placcard and head to London for your weekly march with the other one armed, lesbo, homo, ethnic, student, hippie, Corbyn clones.
It's called self defence laddie boy. After a hundred years of pogroms, gas chambers, Islamic world eviction, a last stand is being made. A military stand. They're actually getting quite good at fighting back these days. Shame the anti smell its can't take it.
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05-15-2026, 07:59 AM
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(05-15-2026, 07:45 AM)Orby Wrote: The aggressor lol? They had all their land stripped from them first by Europe / Nazis, then in the arab lands after that. Masses of aggression, then oh dear Israel gets a chance and fights back! masses of wealth property and land stolen from them. In both Europe, then north Africa and the ME. I guess you wanted them to end up like the rest in the Americas or even dead. Bad news sonny, they fought back 
That was then, this is now and they are pushing a expansionist genocidal Zionist agenda and it has nothing to do with self-preservation.
" Greater Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisrael HaShlema) is an ultranationalist Zionist ideology advocating for a Jewish state that encompasses modern-day Israel, the West Bank, Gaza, and potentially parts of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and Jordan. The concept is rooted in biblical promises describing a divine land grant stretching "from the Nile to the Euphrates," which proponents view as a spiritual and historical entitlement rather than merely a political aspiration.
The ideology has evolved from a fringe religious-nationalist belief into a mainstream political doctrine under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who explicitly endorsed it as a "historic and spiritual mission" in August 2025. Key figures in the current Israeli government, such as Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, actively pursue policies of annexation and settlement expansion to realize this vision, effectively merging religious narratives with statecraft.
While interpretations vary, the term generally refers to two territorial scopes: a narrower definition including Israel’s pre-1967 borders plus the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights; and a maximalist definition extending to the Nile and Euphrates rivers. Critics and international observers describe this ideology as expansionist and destabilizing, arguing that it violates international law, undermines the two-state solution, and entrenches a system of apartheid or ethno-supremacy by denying Palestinian self-determination. " (LLM)
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(05-15-2026, 07:59 AM)quintessentone Wrote: That was then, this is now and they are pushing a expansionist genocidal Zionist agenda and it has nothing to do with self-preservation.
"Greater Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisrael HaShlema) is an ultranationalist Zionist ideology advocating for a Jewish state that encompasses modern-day Israel, the West Bank, Gaza, and potentially parts of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and Jordan. The concept is rooted in biblical promises describing a divine land grant stretching "from the Nile to the Euphrates," which proponents view as a spiritual and historical entitlement rather than merely a political aspiration.
The ideology has evolved from a fringe religious-nationalist belief into a mainstream political doctrine under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who explicitly endorsed it as a "historic and spiritual mission" in August 2025. Key figures in the current Israeli government, such as Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, actively pursue policies of annexation and settlement expansion to realize this vision, effectively merging religious narratives with statecraft.
While interpretations vary, the term generally refers to two territorial scopes: a narrower definition including Israel’s pre-1967 borders plus the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights; and a maximalist definition extending to the Nile and Euphrates rivers. Critics and international observers describe this ideology as expansionist and destabilizing, arguing that it violates international law, undermines the two-state solution, and entrenches a system of apartheid or ethno-supremacy by denying Palestinian self-determination. " (LLM) That then creates the now. Surely you must see it. That then became the now. It just so happens that Israel along with the Yanks are the new PTB in much of this world and now historical wrongs must be corrected. You don't steal the assets off someone and expect to get away with it forever. At some point a reckoning will happen. My mother is still alive, when she was born baghdad was half Jewish. All that wealth, all those houses, all the influence, shattered by ethnic cleansing. The same throughout north africa and west asia. Now things are being corrected. I'm really sorry if you don't like what's going on, if you need to respond to it create an educated class as Israel and the Yanks have done that will produce a MIC that can conquer what you disagree with. Until you create that class, you will continue to lose. It's so simple. Plus you kicked out the very people who could produce that MIC advancement, as did the Nazis before you, then the Soviets in their purges and forged migrations. If you kick out the scientists then how can you win? Idiots.
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(05-15-2026, 08:15 AM)Orby Wrote: That then creates the now. Surely you must see it. That then became the now. It just so happens that Israel along with the Yanks are the new PTB in much of this world and now historical wrongs must be corrected. You don't steal the assets off someone and expect to get away with it forever. At some point a reckoning will happen. My mother is still alive, when she was born baghdad was half Jewish. All that wealth, all those houses, all the influence, shattered by ethnic cleansing. The same throughout north africa and west asia. Now things are being corrected. I'm really sorry if you don't like what's going on, if you need to respond to it create an educated class as Israel and the Yanks have done that will produce a MIC that can conquer what you disagree with. Until you create that class, you will continue to lose. It's so simple. Plus you kicked out the very people who could produce that MIC advancement, as did the Nazis before you, then the Soviets in their purges and forged migrations. If you kick out the scientists then how can you win? Idiots.
This is what you are defending...
" GENEVA – UN experts* today condemned Israel’s accelerating campaign of ethnic cleansing and annexation in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, marked by the forced displacement of Palestinians and escalating violence by Israeli security forces and settlers terrorising Palestinian communities.“Against the backdrop of the US-Israel aggression of Iran and Lebanon, Israel is escalating ethnic cleansing and full annexation of the West Bank,” the experts said.
“Since 28 February, most road gates of the West Bank have been closed by occupation forces, obstructing access to workplaces, schools, health services and aid, isolating communities even from ambulances and fire brigades.”
“Entrapped and out of reach, entire communities live in fear of settler terrorism rampaging across the West Bank day and night,” they warned. “Thousands of Palestinian families have been forced to flee their homes because of escalating settler attacks, and the destruction of essential infrastructure, especially in the Jordan valley, some of them displaced months earlier from other communities.”
The experts are also alarmed by reports of sexual abuse of Palestinian men, women and children by settlers." (LLM)
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(05-15-2026, 09:04 AM)quintessentone Wrote: This is what you are defending...
"GENEVA – UN experts* today condemned Israel’s accelerating campaign of ethnic cleansing and annexation in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, marked by the forced displacement of Palestinians and escalating violence by Israeli security forces and settlers terrorising Palestinian communities.“Against the backdrop of the US-Israel aggression of Iran and Lebanon, Israel is escalating ethnic cleansing and full annexation of the West Bank,” the experts said.
“Since 28 February, most road gates of the West Bank have been closed by occupation forces, obstructing access to workplaces, schools, health services and aid, isolating communities even from ambulances and fire brigades.”
“Entrapped and out of reach, entire communities live in fear of settler terrorism rampaging across the West Bank day and night,” they warned. “Thousands of Palestinian families have been forced to flee their homes because of escalating settler attacks, and the destruction of essential infrastructure, especially in the Jordan valley, some of them displaced months earlier from other communities.”
The experts are also alarmed by reports of sexual abuse of Palestinian men, women and children by settlers." (LLM) The idiots some call Palestinians lost that one, should have made peace when Rabin offered them deal of the century. They declined, so it's game over. Sorry about that. Anyway it's derailing an excellent thread.
Back to the militray exercise in the Gulf. Live with the reality on the ground. Nothing will change until the regime (right now) called Iran either hands over the missing uranium or it is taken by force by TPTB. The Ayatollahs need to get real or it's plenty more Mother of all Battles to come. The Iranians are going to need to keep those flag factories churning out their crap as they are going to need plenty more flags to alight and stamp on with what they're going to be hit with. As history shows, you don't get on the wrong side of TPTB and get away with it
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05-15-2026, 10:05 AM
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(05-15-2026, 09:37 AM)Orby Wrote: The idiots some call Palestinians lost that one, should have made peace when Rabin offered them deal of the century. They declined, so it's game over. Sorry about that. Anyway it's derailing an excellent thread.
Back to the militray exercise in the Gulf. Live with the reality on the ground. Nothing will change until the regime (right now) called Iran either hands over the missing uranium or it is taken by force by TPTB. The Ayatollahs need to get real or it's plenty more Mother of all Battles to come. The Iranians are going to need to keep those flag factories churning out their crap as they are going to need plenty more flags to alight and stamp on with what they're going to be hit with. As history shows, you don't get on the wrong side of TPTB and get away with it 
Trump illegally bombed Iran, why?, because...
"Amnesty International Accuses US, Israel, Russia, Allies Of Driving Global Genocide, War Crimes
A damning new report by the Amnesty International has accused powerful nations including the United States, Israel, and Russia, alongside their allies, of fuelling genocide, war crimes, state-sponsored lawlessness, and a sweeping collapse of human rights across 144 countries worldwide.
In its 2025/26 annual report titled ‘The State of the World’s Human Rights’, the global human rights organisation warned that the world is sliding into a “perilous new era” defined by unchecked violence, impunity, and the systematic dismantling of international law and multilateral institutions. " (LLM)
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Where have I read this before? Nazi playbook?
"She warned that unless urgent and collective action is taken, the world risks descending into what she described as a “racist, patriarchal, unequal and anti-rights world order,” where dissent is crushed, vulnerable populations are dehumanised, and justice mechanisms are rendered ineffective." (LLM)
"“The spiralling conflict in the Middle East is a product of this descent into lawlessness,” Callamard said, warning that unlawful strikes, retaliatory attacks, and the destruction of civilian infrastructure have placed millions at risk." (LLM)
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(05-15-2026, 10:05 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Trump illegally bombed Iran, why?, because...
"Amnesty International Accuses US, Israel, Russia, Allies Of Driving Global Genocide, War Crimes
A damning new report by the Amnesty International has accused powerful nations including the United States, Israel, and Russia, alongside their allies, of fuelling genocide, war crimes, state-sponsored lawlessness, and a sweeping collapse of human rights across 144 countries worldwide.
In its 2025/26 annual report titled ‘The State of the World’s Human Rights’, the global human rights organisation warned that the world is sliding into a “perilous new era” defined by unchecked violence, impunity, and the systematic dismantling of international law and multilateral institutions. " (LLM)
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Where have I read this before? Nazi playbook?
"She warned that unless urgent and collective action is taken, the world risks descending into what she described as a “racist, patriarchal, unequal and anti-rights world order,” where dissent is crushed, vulnerable populations are dehumanised, and justice mechanisms are rendered ineffective." (LLM)
"“The spiralling conflict in the Middle East is a product of this descent into lawlessness,” Callamard said, warning that unlawful strikes, retaliatory attacks, and the destruction of civilian infrastructure have placed millions at risk." (LLM)
Amnesty International you say? I did a little digging on their donors and here's an interesting tidbit:
1. Open Society Foundations (OSF): Founded by George Soros, this grant-making network is historically one of its largest institutional partners, contributing millions to support human rights initiatives. (LLM)
I don't know about you but I don't trust anything George Soros has his fingerprints on. For all I care, Amnesty International is a deep state funded organization carrying out his anti-American agenda. Maybe genocide is their new global warming...
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(05-15-2026, 11:10 AM)Roma Wrote: Amnesty International you say? I did a little digging on their donors and here's an interesting tidbit:
1. Open Society Foundations (OSF): Founded by George Soros, this grant-making network is historically one of its largest institutional partners, contributing millions to support human rights initiatives. (LLM)
I don't know about you but I don't trust anything George Soros has his fingerprints on. For all I care, Amnesty International is a deep state funded organization carrying out his anti-American agenda. Maybe genocide is their new global warming...
Cheers.
Boy oh boy, you are really grasping at straws with that one.
" Mission and Scope: The foundation, named after Karl Popper’s book The Open Society and Its Enemies, operates as the world’s largest private funder of groups working for rights, equity, and justice, with headquarters in New York and offices in over a dozen countries. - Recent Initiatives: Under the new leadership, OSF recently committed $30 million to groups fighting antisemitism and anti-Muslim hate, a move made amidst heightened political scrutiny and investigations into the organization's funding practices."
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There is nothing anti-American in their mission and scope unless you attribute their fighting for human rights, antisemitism and anti-Muslim hate with being anti-American, do you?
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