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Trump says he bombed Iran
(05-06-2026, 05:03 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I have never said I believe they were staged, you are getting confused as to who said what when, here.



It was me

I said I suspect they were staged
Following everything said and believing it must cause whiplash...

They wanna make a deal.
The deal's off the table.
The deal's back on the table.
They rejected the deal.
We rejected the deal.
The deadline is ending
The dealine is not ending.
The deadline is extended.
The extension is revoked.
The revoked extension is unrevoked.
The strait is open.
The strait is closed.
We're guiding ships through.
​​​But that's on hold.
Until it isnt.
Yes, definitely.
Don't count on it.
Without a doubt.
Very doubtful.
As I see it, yes.
My reply is no.
Signs point to yes.
My sources say no.
Outlook good.
Outlook not so good.
Reply hazy, try again.
Ask again later.
Cannot predict now.
Concentrate and ask again.


So... let me know when it's an actual wolf...
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(05-06-2026, 06:51 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Following everything said and believing it must cause whiplash...

They wanna make a deal.
The deal's off the table.
The deal's back on the table.
They rejected the deal.
We rejected the deal.
The deadline is ending
The dealine is not ending.
The deadline is extended.
The extension is revoked.
The revoked extension is unrevoked.
The strait is open.
The strait is closed.
We're guiding ships through.
​​​But that's on hold.
Until it isnt.
Yes, definitely.
Don't count on it.
Without a doubt.
Very doubtful.
As I see it, yes.
My reply is no.
Signs point to yes.
My sources say no.
Outlook not so good.
Outlook good.
Reply hazy, try again.
Ask again later.
Cannot predict now.
Concentrate and ask again.


So... let me know when it's an actual wolf...

"Don't wake me when the war is over."
"The only journey is the one within."
(05-06-2026, 06:43 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: It was me

I said I suspect they were staged

It's hard to keep up what with the Kirk shooting after he went against Israel First and Trump's ear regrowing miraculously.
"The only journey is the one within."
(05-06-2026, 11:33 AM)govshill2 Wrote: Not for nothing, but what does the average person in Iran have to do with a dictatorial fanatic religious government

Iran used to have a government by a monarch, the Shah of Iran. The Shah was deposed by a military coup and it became a constitutional republic (like the US is a constitutional republic), where a religious leader was voted in by 98.2% positive referendum vote in 1979.

Quote:and the efforts to gain nuclear weapons? 

Firstly, that is allegation and, after 47 years of alleged development, there are still no signs or evidence of Iran having developed nukes.

But the US has nukes. Russia has nukes. Israel has nukes. North Korea has nukes. France has nukes. The UK has nukes. India has nukes. Pakistan has nukes. China has nukes. South Africa has nukes.

Wouldn't be surprised if, in secret, the Ukraine has nukes, and Australia, and Italy, and Canada, and Germany, and some African nations, and so on...

Methinks the pot is calling the kettle black!

Quote:(notwithstanding the mass executions by the Iran government)

Executions by State and Year

List of people scheduled to be executed in the United States

Bloody primitives!
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(05-06-2026, 07:35 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Iran used to have a government by a monarch, the Shah of Iran. The Shah was deposed by a military coup and it became a constitutional republic (like the US is a constitutional republic), where a religious leader was voted in by 98.2% positive referendum vote in 1979.


Firstly, that is allegation and, after 47 years of alleged development, there are still no signs or evidence of Iran having developed nukes.

But the US has nukes. Russia has nukes. Israel has nukes. North Korea has nukes. France has nukes. The UK has nukes. India has nukes. Pakistan has nukes. China has nukes. South Africa has nukes.

Wouldn't be surprised if, in secret, the Ukraine has nukes, and Australia, and Italy, and Canada, and Germany, and some African nations, and so on...

Methinks the pot is calling the kettle black!


Executions by State and Year

List of people scheduled to be executed in the United States

Bloody primitives!


Then you should support giving a state that sponsors terrorism world-wide, nukes.

Go for it.

State that Iran should have nukes.

Say it.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(05-06-2026, 07:57 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Then you should support giving a state that sponsors terrorism world-wide, nukes.

Go for it.

State that Iran should have nukes.

Say it.

The USA is the only country that has ever used nukes and that is terrorism in reality.

I said it.
"The only journey is the one within."
(05-06-2026, 08:04 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The USA is the only country that has ever used nukes and that is terrorism in reality.

I said it.


lol

Duh

It was war, and it saved lived.

Read a book ffs.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(05-06-2026, 07:57 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Then you should support giving a state that sponsors terrorism world-wide, nukes.

Go for it.

State that Iran should have nukes.

Say it.

I can say with a high degree of confidence that if Iran had nukes the US would not be first on that list. Just like if Israel had a viable nuke they would have used it by now. so with all that awesome knowledge in mind I can say from my perspective that I don't give a fuck what happens over there as long as commerce continues in a way that benefits me. Them all nuking themselves helps me in the long run.
That is a honest take. I do not in any way condone violence but if it has to happen then let it stay confined to that region and that region alone.
(05-06-2026, 04:26 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Finally a voice calling out the obvious in the disastrous wreckage of what Europe has become. 

A former advisor to Margaret Thatcher calls out all the Western European countries that went AWOL from helping the USA in taking out Iran's crazed leaders and their nuclear ambitions.

Many here have the same words for the USA that the Islam cucked leaders in Europe do.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-righ...er-advisor

Except the USA didn't actually take out Iran's crazed leaders and nuclear ambitions.  We killed the Ayatollah and as many senior members of the IRGC as could be found, but the Theocracy and IRGC are still firmly in control.  According to most nuclear arms experts, Iran still has all the enriched uranium it had before Trump's first strike last June and is still as close to being able to produce probably 10 or 12 nuclear bombs as it was then.  

The real reason for Trump's Special Military Operation wasn't really to accomplish either of those things, or to free the Iranian people from the yoke of tyranny.  As Trump himself and the people around him have made clear on multiple occasions, his motive was to steal Iran's oil and make an obscene amount of money on it. Same game plan as in Venezuela, and for the same motivations.  Same game plan as Putin in Ukraine, for that matter. Kick the door in, kill the nation's leader or otherwise remove him from the scene and take over the resources of the nation for your own profit and that of your fellow kleptocrats.

The leaders of Europe are smart enough to figure that out and to realize there's nothing in it for them, so why should they help Trump?  It's not as if he's going to help them if he succeeds.  First of all, what Trump was doing would be considered attempted armed robbery (on a mega scale) and therefore illegal under international law. Trump has decided and stated on numerous occasions that he has no need for international law (even though the US Constitution requires him to treat international law the same as US law once Congress has passed legislation requiring it--which they have). Most leaders of European nations don't have the option of flagrantly engaging in unlawful actions the same way Trump has decided he does. If they ordered their nations' military forces to participate in an obviously illegal action they would very likely be turned out of office, prosecuted, and tossed in jail.  And if Trump were to actually succeed in personally taking over control of Iran's oil, then what?  Is he going to cut a sweetheart deal for Europe?  Not a chance.  And finally there's the obvious fact that Trump is too mentally incompetent to lead a successful multi-nation war of conquest.  

Europe made the right move by allowing Trump to go and shoot his wad while producing no real results and then trying to restore the situation to the status quo ante, after Trump's short attention span causes him to move on to the next shiny object.



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