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Trump says he bombed Iran

"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(05-04-2026, 08:12 PM)govshill2 Wrote: Latest WILD ASS Rumor:

The UAE is expected to lead an Arab coalition to overthrow the Iranian regime within 24 hours. Israel and US expected to participate!      Cool


LMFAO that is indeed a wild ass rumor. I need to go find that ATS archive so you all can see just how pathetic it would be for the Arab gulf countries to actually put their own forces up against Iran, especially on the ground. The Saudis were unable to prevent the Houthi paramilitary groups from successfully completing an anti terror campaign that freed hundreds of square miles of territory in Yemen from ISIS and al qaeda terrorists and managed to capture something like over 800 all while under Saudi coalition air strikes. They have repeatedly failed at escaping surprise attacks from isolated FOB by Houthi rebels with no air force, who marched through the desert and hills in sandals carrying their own ladder, and smoking them out of nests.

The regular Gulf forces rarely even use their own citizens for any conflict outside their borders. The UAE primarily uses South American and Central/North African mercenaries. They needed them in Libya and Sudan and they were hired to fight The Houthis a decade ago. The whole reason they paid Trump for this fiasco is just so they do not have to use their citizens to fight, because they would do about as good as they did in Syria, which was absolute crap. The only time you got to see Saudis fight for real was when they were sent into Syria at its most vulnerable under the banner of terrorist groups who slaughtered many innocent people and were very sloppy even at fighting Assad's poorly trained men.

They were routed by Russians starting in 2015, and then the torch was then taken up by Turkey and their Ottoman revival Turkmen terror groups under the Free Syrian Army banner after Trump entered office and cut the financing McCain and Obama were so proud of.

20,000 Israeli citizens, tip of the spear. That is the only acceptable land option, PERIOD! Us forces embedded with them, If the Brits are feeling froggy they can dedicate their special forces. Lord knows they are extremely effective! I would never pass up on British special forces assistance, EVER. I refuse any land  option without tens of thousands of Israeli citizens to make Bibi's plans reality. The Israeli nation wants results, Israeli citizens better sacrifice their everything for it.
 
If Israel refuses to mobilize its own citizens for a large scale Island capture/land battle against Iran, then we need to just stop playing this game now, China and US figure out the money situation for the 21st century. Forget pedo European Monarchs or Pedo Sikhs, just China the USA and Russia figure out the shit and business streams forward again.

Also, the UN may actually go insolvent the week of our 250th birthday! Now that is a sweet gift for 250, goodbye parasite/leech UN .
(05-05-2026, 04:02 AM)andy06shake Wrote: There's no credible evidence the UAE is leading a plan to overthrow Iran "within 24 hours."

And if there is, could you at least post a link to the "wild ass rumor?"
 
Toppling Iran's government would require a massive prolonged ground war.

Not a rapid coalition strike.

And point of fact, current reporting shows the opposite.

The UAE is being attacked by Iran, not leading anything, never mind an invasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Irani...b_Emirates


Yeah it'd take months of troop, aircraft and vehicle buildup as the size and mountainous terrain of the country would need be close to 1 million in best case scenario. 24 hour deadline has either just passed or is about to and still no build up of personel close to Iran's borders - let alone full invasion force.

The US is declaring todays Iranian attacks on UAE and ships in the Straight by Iran weren't a breach of the ceasefire so things are thankfully looking at a diplomatic solution rather than all out war.

UAE is a very small country in comparrison with only 60,000 troops  and just over 1000 tanks and armoured vehicles so it wouldn't make any sense for them to be leading such a mission. All ME allies who've been under attack by Iran have bigger forces and more modern tech - they're a lot more vocal to regime change and formally declarinng war with Iran.
(05-05-2026, 09:07 AM)bastion Wrote: Yeah it'd take months of troop, aircraft and vehicle buildup as the size and mountainous terrain of the country would need be close to 1 million in best case scenario. 24 hour deadline has either just passed or is about to and still no build up of personel close to Iran's borders - let alone full invasion force.

The US is declaring todays Iranian attacks on UAE and ships in the Straight by Iran weren't a breach of the ceasefire so things are thankfully looking at a diplomatic solution rather than all out war.

UAE is a very small country in comparrison with only 60,000 troops  and just over 1000 tanks and armoured vehicles so it wouldn't make any sense for them to be leading such a mission. All ME allies who've been under attack by Iran have bigger forces and more modern tech - they're a lot more vocal to regime change and formally declarinng war with Iran.

I can’t think of any of the deadlines that have stuck recently, which is fine, better than full scale war. Hegseth confirmed today the ceasefire is intact, though that two weeks has also expired.

Luckily, I don’t think a ground invasion would even be an option on the table. It took us months to build up forces for Iraq, and that was with a country that couldn’t project outside their borders like Iran. We’ve also left most of the bases in the region.

I think a lot of the problems in the region stem from the old world of colonialism. Much of those nations borders were drawn by Europe, and some of those countries have rival ethnic groups like Iraq all in the same border… Or the Kurds who are stateless.

I don’t see how trying to fix the problem with the same logic could work, only make matters worse.

I think it’s time the Middle Eastern nations start acting like sovereign states and figure out their region. The US has provided more aid to that region than any other in our history. They’ve never helped in our wars, so I think it’s time we let the birds fly out of the nest.
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(05-05-2026, 02:41 AM)angelchemuel Wrote: Erm..... the UAE left OPEC on May 1st..... I think it's a wild rumour.
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Makes us wonder who's firing missiles at The UAE     Eureka
(05-05-2026, 04:02 AM)andy06shake Wrote: There's no credible evidence the UAE is leading a plan to overthrow Iran "within 24 hours."

And if there is, could you at least post a link to the "wild ass rumor?"
 
Toppling Iran's government would require a massive prolonged ground war.

Not a rapid coalition strike.

And point of fact, current reporting shows the opposite.

The UAE is being attacked by Iran, not leading anything, never mind an invasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Irani...b_Emirates

Maybe a Mossad inside coup de grass!!    Tumble
(05-05-2026, 06:36 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Fascism existed before Nazism, and Communism existed before Fascism.

It was Fascism that positioned itself, militarily, in opposition to any and all preexisting 'isms'.

Communists, Feudalists, Marxists, Trotskyists, Nativists, Anarchists, Monarchists and a heap of other ideologues existed before Italian Fascism, and Italian Fascism opposed all of them - violently and oppressively.

So all those previous systems were, in reaction, anti-Fascist. And all of them were probably initially ignorant of the dangers of Fascism until they found themselves directly threatened. Communism wasn't founded in anti-fascism as fascism was founded in anti-communism.

Communism wasn't the only opponent of fascism. Almost all of Eastern and Western Europe and the US too, regardless of ideology, warred, actually went into battle and took lives and gave theirs, against the fascist alliance.

And fascism was defeated, completely. And all those other ideologies that had survived undertook to work together to make sure that fascism would never happen again.

Yet, as societies became more liberal, the opposition to fascist style views was reduced and so we find ourselves today with the far-right once again trying to usurp power through violence.

In a recent survey, 1/3 of US citizens said they believed that political violence was justified. That's horrific! You'd give away centuries of progress, safety under the law and prosperity to live in a man made hell under the thumb of the biggest bully?


so what combinations of the above is The Iran Government since 1979?
(05-05-2026, 09:43 AM)govshill2 Wrote: Maybe a Mossad inside coup de grass!!    Tumble

Unfortunately, cut off one head, and two more arise with that mob.

It's one of the reasons making war against religious fundamentalist nutters who imagine they have god on their side tends to be a bad idea.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
Secretary Pete Hegseth on Kamikaze DolphinsCool




Hegseth addresses use of 'kamikaze dolphins' in Iran – 'Can't confirm or deny'
Quote:Pete Hegseth has addressed the use of "kamikaze dolphins" in Iran, joking at a press conference today that he "can't confirm or deny" whether the US is using weaponised sea creatures. 
Asked about reports of the marine mammals being deployed as weapons, the US defence secretary said: "I can't confirm or deny whether we have kamikaze dolphins, but I can confirm they [Iran] don't."



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