Trump says he bombed Iran

[chr0naut]

It's lower court activist leftist judges ffs!

That is incorrect:

Supreme Court rules most Trump tariffs illegal in major setback for economic agenda

Which Supreme Court cases have ruled actions by Donald Trump unconstitutional and what were their holdings?

[chr0naut]

Citation please

US Constitution, Article I, Section 9, Clause 7:

"No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law."

US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings;-And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

also, upheld by the US Supreme Court.

Supreme Court strikes down tariffs

Trump's imposition of Tarriffs was illegal and unconstitutional.

[chr0naut]

Like it would matter.

Dear God, relax.

'Cause laws, especially the great big overarching ones, are just made to be broken?

Rite?

LOL.

[chr0naut]

but.............you maybe jump-a da-gun  

So, when the Supreme Court knocked down the Trump tarriffs because they were unconstitutional, they were a lyin'

[bastion]

So, Kim is a mad dictator who brutally represses and murders his people, has nukes and the means to deliver them, and has threatened to use them to attack the US.

But the US doesn't seem at all concerned?

They've recently crossed the ICBM range/ammount threshold to be able to overwhelm current US defences in the nuclear holocaust first-strike attack they've openly wanted to launch against US for decades. The Iranian regime had a fatwa against nukes until the recent war and nuke/icbm tech was at least a decade away from having a viable nuke as the US IEA reports prove.

In the last decade the NK stockpile of nukes and rapidly developing ICBM tech barely gets a mention by US or international community despite ongoing testing and major advances in range.

It would make sense if the goal of the Iran war was to harm Chinese and Russian influence and keep US the world superpower but US is allowing China and Russia to re-arm Iran and break the blockade at will so it's all a bit pointless waste of life and money unless you're Hesgeth/Pentagon staff who are more than happy to leak national security data and put troops lives at risk to beome multi-millionaires.

[andy06shake]

Wait till The MSM gets the newest Deep Rumor (most are true) verified.

Wonder WHY The U.S. and Israel went batshit squirrel nutz crazy on Iran so quickly both times in the middle of "talks" breakdowns with Iran stalling to obvious?

Wonder WHY Trump keeps "hinting" and emphasizing Iran won't get Nukes?

Well no surprise. Iran had nukes from Russia. Missile delivery was very very soon.

Iran plan was to corner the oil markets with key "elimination" limited nuke strikes!!

All making a little more sense now.

 


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You realize that when a nuclear weapon detonates.

It releases a mix of radioactive materials and energy patterns that act like a "fingerprint."

If Russia or anyone else gave Iran nukes, the first time one was detonated, the nuclear forensics would be rather telling...

[bastion]

You realize that when a nuclear weapon detonates.

It releases a mix of radioactive materials and energy patterns that act like a "fingerprint."

If Russia or anyone else gave Iran nukes, the first time one was detonated, the nuclear forensics would be rather telling...

That and there's been tech around for a few decades at least to pinpoint loactions of enriched nuclear material so it can't fall into the wrong hands - a Physics prof at the Uni I used to work for had left a tiny ammount of plutonium unsecured in his office while on sabbatical without notifying anyone. It only took a couple of weeks for gov/local barracks to get in contact location of the tiny office it was in in a 300+room building and extract it to a secured location and it was only a couple of grams of material.

There's no evidence and no reason for Russia or China to supply Iran nukes as it would guarantee all out war between US, NATO and all African/ME countries they've been establishing military bases with - Russia and China have been supplying Iran with intel on US ships and troop locations but haven't hinted at supplying their own troops or their jets launching counter attacks on the US.

There's plenty of evidence Russia was shipping and continues to ship upgraded drones to Iran while China was and conotinues to ship MANPADS and similar as the contracts are public - there's never been any evidence or mention of nuke shipping and it's impossible to move stockpiles in secret; let alone ship them to an international pariah state of radical islamists who had a strict policy that nukes are haram/un-islamic and a fatwa against them before the current war.

If the US had any evidence Russia was planning to supply Iran with nukes then they'd have notified five eyes/NATO allies before launching the war without their knowlege as they would be guaranteed support. The conflict is so unpopular in the US that it makes no sense for the gov to sit on any evidence Russia were about to ship Iran nukes as if there was any the public would back it and Republicans walk the mid-terms.

[DBCowboy]

That and there's been tech around for a few decades at least to pinpoint loactions of enriched nuclear material so it can't fall into the wrong hands - a Physics prof at the Uni I used to work for had left a tiny ammount of plutonium unsecured in his office while on sabbatical without notifying anyone. It only took a couple of weeks for gov/local barracks to get in contact location of the tiny office it was in in a 300+room building and extract it to a secured location and it was only a couple of grams of material.

There's no evidence and no reason for Russia or China to supply Iran nukes as it would guarantee all out war between US, NATO and all African/ME countries they've been establishing military bases with - Russia and China have been supplying Iran with intel on US ships and troop locations but haven't hinted at supplying their own troops or their jets launching counter attacks on the US.

There's plenty of evidence Russia was shipping and continues to ship upgraded drones to Iran while China was and conotinues to ship MANPADS and similar as the contracts are public - there's never been any evidence or mention of nuke shipping and it's impossible to move stockpiles in secret; let alone ship them to an international pariah state of radical islamists who had a strict policy that nukes are haram/un-islamic and a fatwa against them before the current war.

If the US had any evidence Russia was planning to supply Iran with nukes then they'd have notified five eyes/NATO allies before launching the war without their knowlege as they would be guaranteed support. The conflict is so unpopular in the US that it makes no sense for the gov to sit on any evidence Russia were about to ship Iran nukes as if there was any the public would back it and Republicans walk the mid-terms.

I can factually state that there is much not being reported, much not being discussed, since my son is one of the deployed troops to somewhere.

And AS a former active-duty person myself yes, there are detectors and instruments used to track and monitor NBC weapons.
Our shop used to calibrate such instruments and pre-load the instruments to determine what to detect.  They were used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

So just because it's not reported, doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

[CriticalStinker]

I can factually state that there is much not being reported, much not being discussed, since my son is one of the deployed troops to somewhere.

And AS a former active-duty person myself yes, there are detectors and instruments used to track and monitor NBC weapons.
Our shop used to calibrate such instruments and pre-load the instruments to determine what to detect.  They were used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

So just because it's not reported, doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

I believe all of this is in reference to a member saying this came from a "deep rumor" with no sources.

Anything is possible in this world. Just because there isn't evidence of the contrary doesn't make a claim any more true. I don't see what the logical reason Russia would have to provide Iran nuclear weapons. There are far more ways they can support them without crossing such a line. Plus, the higher oil prices makes Russia one of the few beneficiaries in all of this.

Iran isn't some do or die ally for Russia.

[andy06shake]

I can factually state that there is much not being reported, much not being discussed, since my son is one of the deployed troops to somewhere.

And AS a former active-duty person myself yes, there are detectors and instruments used to track and monitor NBC weapons.
Our shop used to calibrate such instruments and pre-load the instruments to determine what to detect.  They were used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

So just because it's not reported, doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

Problem being that personal anecdotes don't equal evidence, DB.

Iran having nuclear weapons would require large-scale observable infrastructure.

And no credible intelligence or "International Atomic Energy Agency" reports confirm Iran possesses a nuclear capability.

North Korea, India, and Pakistan, on the other hand...

All very credible threats, same as China and Russia.