Trump says he bombed Iran

[DBCowboy]

Who said anything about OUR plight?

I just ordered Uber to not have to leave. My life is first world all the way, and my biggest problem is hoping the person doesn't leave my order in the lobby again..

That's like a non-sequitur plus now.

So let me ask you to clarify the "fear mongering." 

Is the "fear-mongering" over AMERICA running out of food or IRAN running out of food?

Everything I've read that is even close to humanitarian issues is talking about IRANIAN shortages. And pressuring Trump to consider THAT moving forward. A Geneva convention type thing. 

Who the hell is dumb enough to think The Strait of Hormuz blockade is going to hurt American food staples? People that rely on saffron?

I think you're argument is over in a attempted drift tangent again....

Bull crap.

Either you are blissfully unaware, or deliberately ignorant of the fearmongering going on in the western media.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Bull crap.

Either you are blissfully unaware, or deliberately ignorant of the fearmongering going on in the western media.

Please define the fear mongering! Can you speak to this specific instance?  

This is very specific issue on the closure of The Strait of Hormuz and a food shortage arising in Iran because if it, right? That's the on topic part. 

Its not a broader political shitshow about the pervassiveness of the left-lean of world media.  There's been decades of that. Its played out.  The left-leaning global media has long been confirmed and proven to show bias to liberals overall. So freaking what. That's NOT news. 

This, however, is on THE SPECIFIC FEAR MONGERING that is pressuring Trump regarding IRAN. That is the statement. Don't put inflection in my argument that argues beyond what is intended. 

And i gave you my argument for why there is truth behind the humanitarian issues, even citing the US WINNING THE WAR to validate it. We are fucking them up. No question.  

This is not the broader issue of evil bias media boogeyman out to subvert the world.  Stop trying to send it there. 

Do you have a comment on the USA winning the war to such a degree we are disrupting Iran's ability to eat? 

Or do you think we haven't disrupted their ability to feed themselves yet? 

[DBCowboy]

Please define the fear mongering! Can you speak to this specific instance?  

This is very specific issue on the Closure of The Strait of Hormuz and a food shortage arising in Iran, right? Thats on topic. 

Its not a broader political shitshow about the pervassiveness of the left-lean of world media.  There's been decades of that. Its played out.  The left-leaning global media has been confirmed and proven to show bias to liberals. So freaking what. That's NOT news. 

This, however, is on THE SPECIFIC FEAR MONGERING that is pressuring Trump regarding IRAN. That is the statement. Don't put inflection in my argument that argues beyond what intended. 

And i gave you an argument for why there is truth behind the humanitarian issues, even citing the US WINNING THE WAR SO FAR to validate it. We are fucking them up. No question.  

Not the broader issue of evil bias media boogeyman out to subvert the world.  Stop trying to send it there. 

Do you have a comment on the USA winning the war to such a degree we are disrupting Iran's ability to eat? Why wouldn't you want the USA to be so effective they made it hard for Iran to eat how they used to?

You have never fought in a war, I take it.

So you don't know what it feels like to have people actively wanting, trying to kill you.  

For you it's abstract, a classroom debate, a discussion.

For the rest of us it is real life.  It's happening to my son who's currently deployed.

To answer your question though, I don't give a fuck about the Iranians.

I want them to surrender now.

I've chosen a side.  It's America.  The rest can go screw themselves.

[chr0naut]

And internal combustion engines will never go away. Ever.

Benz designed one of the first ones to run on vegetable oil.

Heat engines can, and do, run on numerous fuels. Don't fall for the 'big petrochem' lie.

[chr0naut]

The Big 3 automakers here in the USA have scaled back immensely on the electric vehicle bullshit.

It's just not viable on a large scale.

It's a niche market and it will never not be a niche market.

Outrageous prices for the EVs and external factors such as cold weather killing the batteries will never be solved except maybe 100-200 years in the future.

The main rockets that powered the recent Artemis II mission were hydrogen-oxygen ones - way more powerful and energy-dense than petrol could ever be.

There are solid state batteries, new non-rare-earth-element battery tech, fuel cells and all sorts of technologies that are capable and haven't yet been optimised for automobile use. In India, there are cars that run on nothing but highly compressed air. During WWII, there were busses, cars and trucks that generated coal gas to run their engines. There are steam and Stirling engines that can turn almost any source of heat into motion. And of course, there are bikes and scooters and Segway's and all sorts of personal transport vehicles.

And, of course you are measuring everything based only upon what has happened, historically, in the USA. The country that has allegedly killed those who discovered that they can run standard engines on fumes, or on different non-petroleum fuels.

[RazorV66]

To answer your question though, I don't give a fuck about the Iranians.

I want them to surrender now.

I've chosen a side.  It's America.  The rest can go screw themselves.

[RazorV66]

Benz designed one of the first ones to run on vegetable oil.

Heat engines can, and do, run on numerous fuels. Don't fall for the 'big petrochem' lie.

Where are they selling them?
Are they mass producing them? 
Why aren't they already in the hands of billions of people across the globe?

[RazorV66]

Tell that to Elon. LOL.

Elon knows they are a gimmick.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Where are they selling them?
Are they mass producing them? 
Why aren't they already in the hands of billions of people across the globe?

Its called biodiesel and its mass produced because its cheaper than changing entire infrastructure to fit one type of fuel. They have issues with fraud though in those companies because of government subsidies granted. It is still a thing though none the less.

[Astyanax]

Either you are blissfully unaware, or deliberately ignorant of the fearmongering going on in the western media.

I’m not sure what media Pops consumes – probably wingnut outlets reframing objective coverage as left-wing propaganda – but I have seen no reputable media firm indulge in fearmongering about consumer shortages in the USA. The concern, as I understand it, is about

1. the rest of the world, particularly Asia, which is highly dependent on the Middle East for energy supply
   
2. the Iranian people, who are bearing the brunt of your country’s illegal aggression against theirs
   
3. shortages of various industrial products that are likely to affect US industries in the medium term
   
4. inflation in the USA linked to the rising world market price of oil
   

Perhaps he means the sensationalist tabloid media, or genuinely crazy left-wing media with niche audiences whose nutty pronouncements are made much of by the wingnut media.

‘Nay, my dear lady, there is no wit in what our friend added; there is only abuse.’ – Dr Johnson