Trump says he bombed Iran

[Thetruth]

"The war was stupid" Are you 6 years old?

The US and Isreal reduced their military infrastructure and capability to almost non existence. 

Iran is no longer a serious threat to the region.

For a country that had a near non existent  military  they sure were throwing  a lot of missiles.

And for a non existent  military  they sure did shut the strait of hormuz down.

[andy06shake]

The Israelis aren't happy.

Imagine that...

[cherokeetroy]

So nuke them now?

I don't understand why Trump couldn't focus on the singular objective of supporting the Iranian people in toppling the Mullahs 

They proved they're willing to fight

Trump says there's been regime change 

But according to Iranians I follow on X, that doesn't appear to be the case 

What's left of the old regime is still intact

Unless Trump is plotting some 5D scheme to take them out, it looks like he's cutting deals that will enrich & empower them even more

And Iranians are terrified & confused

They went from wondering if they were going to survive a nuclear blast

To now wondering if they'll survive the IRGC

I feel for them because i knew all along they were never a priority 

Trump gave them a glimmer of false hope

Now it looks like they're going to experience his betrayal first hand

[andy06shake]

I don't understand why Trump couldn't focus on the singular objective of supporting the Iranian people in toppling the Mullahs 

They proved they're willing to fight

Trump says there's been regime change 

But according to Iranians I follow on X, that doesn't appear to be the case 

What's left of the old regime is still intact

Unless Trump is plotting some 5D scheme to take them out, it looks like he's cutting deals that will enrich & empower them even more

And Iranians are terrified & confused

They went from wondering if they were going to survive a nuclear blast

To now wondering if they'll survive the IRGC

I feel for them because i knew all along they were never a priority 

Trump gave them a glimmer of false hope

Now it looks like they're going to experience his betrayal first hand

Trump says big things, but reality seldom matches.

Regime change isn't a tweet, and Iran isn't a simple fix.

At the end of the day, it's the everyday people who are stuck there, dealing with the consequences.

While leaders play politics...

But at least there is now a dialogue...

[FlyersFan]

- Iran held the Strait hostage and they won.   

- Trumps bloviating 'we won' for the past month is absolutely not true.  

- Iran still gets to refine uranium and they'll continue to lie about it's applications.  Nothing has changed.

- Irans religious whackjobs are still in charge of the country and war to usher in their fake Mahdi is still their goal.   Nothing has changed.

- Iran gets a 1 million $$ tax on all the ships going through the Strait so they now control the international waters of the Strait.  So Iran gained in this area.

- Billions and billions spent on this war and it may have destroyed Irans AirForce and Navy, but they will rebuild it with the money they are now making from taxing the international shipping waters of the Strait, which now they absolutely control.

- As part of this ceasefire, Israel agreed to stop it's self defense activities in Lebanon, so that's a loss for Israel.

- Europe/NATO showed that in regards to Iran they are just kicking the problem can down the road and are useless.   USA should pull out of NATO.   Take our troops and our toys and leave Europe.   Save the money.   The idiots in charge of UK/Europe don't care that Irans missiles can reach them and that they are making nuclear weapons ... fine ... let them get blown up, it's THEIR problem, not ours.  They just whine when we step in.   So we should stop stepping in.

- Iran had been negotiating in bad faith before the war.   They were engaged in building nuclear weapons and they advertised their purpose ... destruction of Israel, USA interests an allies which include Europe.   This war was necessary to take care of the problem before it came to a head.    America tried.  Israel tried.   But even though Europe/UK and Gulfstates say they don't want a nuclear Iran, they did not aid in the attempt to stop Iran.  In fact, what Europe/UK did actually aided Iran.    They have only themselves to blame when bat-crap crazy Iran is fully nuclear.   I will have no sympathy for them when Iran is nuclear and is gunning them down.

[quintessentone]

Already there are cracks forming in this ceasefire:

"Yes, Israel is included in the two-week ceasefire talks and has agreed to suspend its bombing campaign against Iran, as confirmed by a senior White House official and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office.  The agreement, brokered by Pakistan and announced by President Trump just before his deadline, requires Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and halt attacks on the US, Israel, and regional countries. 

However, Israel has explicitly stated that the ceasefire does not include Lebanon, where it is currently fighting the Iran-backed group Hezbollah.  This stance contradicts statements from Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and other mediators who claimed the deal covers all fronts, including Lebanon. While Israel supports the suspension of strikes on Iran for the two-week period, it maintains the right to continue operations in Lebanon."

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"Hezbollah hasn't issued a statement on the developments."

""The Islamic Resistance in Iraq announces the suspension of its operations in Iraq and the region for two weeks," the alliance said in a short statement on Telegram."

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/ira...n-strikes/

[andy06shake]

"Ceasefire agreed in Iran: Who has won the war?"

[andy06shake]

- Iran gets a 1 million $$ tax on all the ships going through the Strait so they now control the international waters of the Strait.  So Iran gained in this area.

That might even be lowballing it.

Some reports suggest it's going to be $2 million per vessel.

They might even try and do it on a case-by-case basis... 

[angelchemuel]

"Ceasefire agreed in Iran: Who has won the war?"

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ8pWC9eCfA]

"It's not over until the fat lady sings"....... comes to mind.
i'm not holding my breath!
Rainbows
Jane

[CriticalStinker]

- Europe/NATO showed that in regards to Iran they are just kicking the problem can down the road and are useless.   USA should pull out of NATO.   Take our troops and our toys and leave Europe.   Save the money.   The idiots in charge of UK/Europe don't care that Irans missiles can reach them and that they are making nuclear weapons ... fine ... let them get blown up, it's THEIR problem, not ours.  They just whine when we step in.   So we should stop stepping in.

I get people are mad that NATO didn’t step in, but they’re a defensive treaty. There are plenty of wars we didn’t help France or the UK with while being NATO members. And that’s because the Falkland Islands and African nations were part of their national interest, not existential threats.

We are the only country to invoke article 5, and the did help us. 

I saw a lot of criticism for the European nations but I rarely saw any criticism for the Gulf states for doing absolutely nothing even though we’ve fought many wars in their region for them. I don’t think any country in the Middle East has ever sent soldiers to fight along side ours ever, which isn’t the case with Europe.

We just used years worth of our most advanced munitions for this war which got us nothing. So I don’t think it’s the best time to cut off alliances.

But alas, things could be much much worse if we got sucked further into this.