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(04-06-2026, 03:32 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: I looked at a couple historical charts and it does vary by state Texas seems to do much better than the national average i didnt know people paid more by state to be honest but there may be a $0.40 difference per gallon but at most im paying historically $4-5 more filling up every week it seems kind of silly to complain about it

If $20 a month cripples someone I suggest riding a bike. I kind of want a bike id probably fall off one now lol havent rode in forever good exercise though.


one year ago April on Average

Quote:In April 2025, the national average price for a gallon of regular gasoline was approximately $3.26, reflecting fluctuations due to factors like refinery maintenance and seasonal demand. Prices were slightly higher than the previous month, indicating a general upward trend in fuel costs.

today my area

$3.27 Regular
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(04-06-2026, 03:32 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: If $20 a month cripples someone I suggest riding a bike. I kind of want a bike id probably fall off one now lol havent rode in forever good exercise though.

Would love to bike.

But I live at a 3,000+ elevation between 2 truck routes.  It's dangerous enough in a vehicle.

Thank Zeus for home delivery.
(04-06-2026, 03:24 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Same - same.

You're not asking anyone to agree with you.

You/We -- would just like an intelligent - articulate rebuttal - presented with factual backup (link).

OR -- if it's an opinion -- a reasonable response not to agree -- and why.

Thanks for sticking around all these years - BTW

I value your educated efforts to help me understand things I don't fully understand.

Give me a break

I link stuff ALL the time, and the links get pissed on constantly by Carpy and others because it's not an blue approved source,

GOD forbid somebody uses a Fox link and the left here has a stroke.

Even freaking Discord allows FOX links as credible, but not Deny Ignorance..

Hell I routinely use CNN links, MSN links I use the links I come across BECAUSE ON ATS they would be vetted based on the actual news not the network
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(04-06-2026, 01:27 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: No links, as usual?  FFS?


It's a CNN video, is on their website, and it's on Bo Loudan's X.com; it's in the picture. Next time, I'll make sure to have the link

Hell, I thought we were about the same age.

I'm sorry, I didn't know you were that old.

https://x.com/BoLoudon/status/2041169371901370403?s=20

 here's another source on X.com and Ive enlarged it so you can see better 

this is from Bill Mitchell@mitchelvii would be their X.com/Twitter handle


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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
The economic shock of Covid didn't hit until about 60 days in
The war is at day 35
Strait of Hormuz still choked
And they haven't started the most aggressive bombing campaign, yet

https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2041121...26522?s=20

https://x.com/AlaliQasem/status/20411906...26021?s=20

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(04-06-2026, 03:51 PM)putnam6 Wrote: one year ago April on Average


today my area

$3.27 Regular

Nice, my area is $3.80
(04-06-2026, 04:02 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Would love to bike.

But I live at a 3,000+ elevation between 2 truck routes.  It's dangerous enough in a vehicle.

Thank Zeus for home delivery.

What a beautiful place that must be! Congrats man
(04-06-2026, 04:23 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The economic shock of Covid didn't hit until about 60 days in
The war is at day 35
Strait of Hormuz still choked
And they haven't started the most aggressive bombing campaign, yet

https://x.com/EdConwaySky/status/2041121...26522?s=20

https://x.com/AlaliQasem/status/20411906...26021?s=20

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This is interesting. Did you pay the $499 for the full report... from thundersaidenergy.com
Or is this just worst-case scenario data extrapolation teasers?

We have half a dozen data/news analysts for our industry, the oil/energy sector likely has hundreds, if not thousands, what makes ThunderSaidEnergy.com so choice?


Heres the Saudis thoughts

Quote:World Affairs

@World_Affairs11

·
12h

BREAKING:

Saudi Arabia says it will replace strait of Hormuz with pipeline to import and export oil from middle Eastern countries.

Thought for 8s

The X post claims Saudi Arabia will bypass the Strait of Hormuz by using pipelines for oil imports and exports from Middle Eastern countries, illustrated with a photo of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
Saudi Arabia has already maximized its existing East-West Pipeline (Petroline) at 7 million barrels per day to the Red Sea port of Yanbu, serving as a contingency amid the effective closure of Hormuz due to regional conflict with Iran.
This capacity covers a significant portion of Saudi exports but only partially offsets the roughly 20 million barrels per day that typically flow through Hormuz, prompting Gulf states to explore further pipeline expansions.

East-West Pipeline history

Iran Strait tensions

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The post from @World_Affairs11
claims Saudi Arabia will "replace" the Strait of Hormuz with pipelines for importing/exporting oil from other Middle Eastern countries. This appears to be a mix of current actions and aspirational/future ideas.Current Reality (What Saudi Arabia Has Already Done)Saudi Arabia has already activated and maximized its existing East-West Pipeline (also called Petroline). It's a ~1,200 km (745 mile) system running from the eastern oil fields (near Abqaiq) across the country to the Red Sea port of Yanbu.
Built in the early 1980s as a contingency exactly for scenarios like Hormuz disruptions.
Normal sustainable capacity was around 5 million barrels per day (bpd). With upgrades and surge operations (including converting some NGL lines), it reached a maximum of 7 million bpd.
As of late March 2026 (shortly after the Hormuz closure in late February), Aramco ramped it up to full 7 million bpd capacity within days/weeks of the crisis starting.

reuters.com

How long did the ramp-up take?
Essentially immediate to a couple of weeks once the decision was made — it was a pre-existing, maintained infrastructure with spare capacity held in reserve for emergencies. By early March, flows had increased significantly, and it hit full capacity around March 10–28, 2026.

spglobal.com

This covers a meaningful portion of Saudi exports (Saudi normally exports ~6–7 million bpd total), with ~5 million bpd now going out via Yanbu and the rest feeding local Red Sea refineries. However, it only partially offsets the ~15–20+ million bpd that typically flowed through Hormuz (including from Saudi, UAE, Iraq, Kuwait, etc.). It's not a full replacement.

arabnews.com

Future Expansions or New Pipelines ("This" in the Post)The post seems to refer to broader plans for additional pipelines or further expansions to better bypass Hormuz long-term, possibly involving other Gulf countries' oil too.Expanding the existing East-West/Petroline or adding parallel lines: Discussions are active, but no firm timelines announced. Experts note this would be "technically possible" but require significant investment and time — likely 18–24+ months minimum for meaningful additional capacity (including port/terminal upgrades at Yanbu to handle more tanker loadings).

houseofsaud.com

New cross-border pipelines (e.g., from UAE/Qatar across Saudi to Red Sea/Mediterranean, or replicating the model for others): Gulf states are now studying these amid the crisis. These would be huge, complex projects — crossing deserts, multiple borders, and requiring new infrastructure. Reports describe them as "costly and complex," taking years to decades to complete (similar to how the original Petroline took ~1–2 years to build in the 1980s, but modern multi-country versions would face far more hurdles). Near-term focus is on quicker expansions of existing routes (Saudi's East-West or UAE's Habshan-Fujairah to ~1.5+ million bpd extra).

dailysabah.com

In short:Maximizing what already exists: Done in days to weeks.
Building/expanding new capacity: 1–2+ years for practical additions; many years for ambitious regional networks that could truly "replace" Hormuz flows.

The original pipeline was a smart, decades-old insurance policy that proved useful now. Any major new build would be a longer-term strategic move, not an overnight fix — and it would still face risks like potential targeting in conflicts. The post overstates it as an immediate full replacement.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(04-06-2026, 04:47 PM)putnam6 Wrote: This is interesting. Did you pay the $499 for the full report... from thundersaidenergy.com
Or is this just worst-case scenario data extrapolation teasers?

We have half a dozen data/news analysts for our industry, the oil/energy sector likely has hundreds, if not thousands, what makes ThunderSaidEnergy.com so choice?


Heres the Saudis thoughts

Ironic that I'm now being attacked for my news source
But it's for their own good says the First Lady

https://x.com/PrepperCanadian/status/204...12448?s=20

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