Trump says he bombed Iran

[cherokeetroy]

Plenty of media, and a few people here, were rooting for our pilots to be captured.
Fascinating.

I find it disgusting to see people cheering on a potential bloodbath

[DBCowboy]

I find it disgusting to see people cheering on a potential bloodbath

Yet you would cheer the death of Trump.

Ironic.

[EXETER]

Well sure. It’s why Obama and his pallets of $ to Iran ain’t working. And so….Here we are.

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The JCPOA negotiated and signed under Obama was never intended to prevent Iran from doing all manner of vile and murderous things. It was intended to solve one particular problem as directly and inexpensively as possible and that was to roll back the ability of Iran to acquire functional nuclear weapons.  And it solved that problem.  Donald Trump himself as POTUS in his first term signed off on that fact twice before he unilaterally and with no thought about what was supposed to happen next pulled out of the agreement.  

If he had not pulled out of that agreement, he would not have to have bombed Iran's nuclear sites last June and would not have to send in special operations forces now to retrieve the 60% enriched uranium that Iran has created in the mean time, since the important provisions of that agreement ran for at least 10 years. 

That would not have solved the problem of Iran's support for regional proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, nor would it have solved the problem of Iran's development of long-range ballistic missiles.  But it was never intended to. Saying the agreement ain't working because the agreement isn't solving a problem it was never intended to solve AND the agreement was terminated is just idiotic.

Now, Trump has to solve the problems of Iran's support for regional proxies AND their development of long-range ballistic missiles, AND their possession of 60% enriched uranium.  He could have been facing only two problems now instead of three if he had just spent more time on the golf course and not dicked around with the JCPOA.

[SomeStupidName]

Apologies buddy, we must have gotten confused at what I was talking about. I was responding to a statement you made where I said raising the age cap is for joining only, not the ability to serve. If you're in the military, you can serve past the joining cap.

I brought this up because of the comment below:
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 Sorry friend I didn't realize it was for joining only but I did address that even for the a 20 year old and a 42 year old joining on the same day and completing the same basic training at an equal capacity level shouldn't cause you any concern as for the 20 year olds entering Europe that really has nothing to do with the raising the fighting age.

[SteamyAmerican]

The JCPOA negotiated and signed under Obama was never intended to prevent Iran from doing all manner of vile and murderous things. It was intended to solve one particular problem as directly and inexpensively as possible and that was to roll back the ability of Iran to acquire functional nuclear weapons.  And it solved that problem.  Donald Trump himself as POTUS in his first term signed off on that fact twice before he unilaterally and with no thought about what was supposed to happen next pulled out of the agreement.  

If he had not pulled out of that agreement, he would not have to have bombed Iran's nuclear sites last June and would not have to send in special operations forces now to retrieve the 60% enriched uranium that Iran has created in the mean time, since the important provisions of that agreement ran for at least 10 years. 

That would not have solved the problem of Iran's support for regional proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, nor would it have solved the problem of Iran's development of long-range ballistic missiles.  But it was never intended to. Saying the agreement ain't working because the agreement isn't solving a problem it was never intended to solve AND the agreement was terminated is just idiotic.

Now, Trump has to solve the problems of Iran's support for regional proxies AND their development of long-range ballistic missiles, AND their possession of 60% enriched uranium.  He could have been facing only two problems now instead of three if he had just spent more time on the golf course and not dicked around with the JCPOA.

Thank you in earnest for the detailed explanation.

Again the history buff in me kinda wants to see what a modern nation looks like when bombed into the Stone Age. I mean they deserve it so I’m told.

Im also told if we turn out the lights and prevent river crossing “the Iranian people will love it”. So we got that goin for us too. Plus maybe we get oil or something. And the world won’t be super mad about all this anymore.

Oh. Repercussions you quip?

Pish-posh. IDF will have our 6 on the ground and oil will go to an -$3.50 a barrel. Angels will sing. Babies everywhere will coo and get candy. Harps and trumpets will play a symphony and hail the praises of 47 and his adept and keenly capable administration. Peace will descend on the ME and Israel’s moralest army can build that temple in relative calm. Humanity will come together as never before and everyone everywhere will praise our new AI lords for giving us an age free of pain and desperation.

Should be pretty cool actually.

Have an awesome Easter everyone. He is rizzin. Not Jesus. Trump.

[Vermilion]

The JCPOA negotiated and signed under Obama was never intended to prevent Iran from doing all manner of vile and murderous things. It was intended to solve one particular problem as directly and inexpensively as possible and that was to roll back the ability of Iran to acquire functional nuclear weapons.  And it solved that problem.  Donald Trump himself as POTUS in his first term signed off on that fact twice before he unilaterally and with no thought about what was supposed to happen next pulled out of the agreement.  

If he had not pulled out of that agreement, he would not have to have bombed Iran's nuclear sites last June and would not have to send in special operations forces now to retrieve the 60% enriched uranium that Iran has created in the mean time, since the important provisions of that agreement ran for at least 10 years. 

That would not have solved the problem of Iran's support for regional proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, nor would it have solved the problem of Iran's development of long-range ballistic missiles.  But it was never intended to. Saying the agreement ain't working because the agreement isn't solving a problem it was never intended to solve AND the agreement was terminated is just idiotic.

Now, Trump has to solve the problems of Iran's support for regional proxies AND their development of long-range ballistic missiles, AND their possession of 60% enriched uranium.  He could have been facing only two problems now instead of three if he had just spent more time on the golf course and not dicked around with the JCPOA.

83.7% enriched uranium

[SteamyAmerican]

 Sorry friend I didn't realize it was for joining only but I did address that even for the a 20 year old and a 42 year old joining on the same day and completing the same basic training at an equal capacity level shouldn't cause you any concern as for the 20 year olds entering Europe that really has nothing to do with the raising the fighting age.

Oh. What’s that Lassie? 

You didn’t even know what you foaming at the mouth for while jumping into the argument?

No way. 

I do give ya props for incorporating Modest Mouse & Beastie Boys into your argument however.

[SomeStupidName]

Gotcha.

you got proof for these claims of longer life/healthier existence?

ETA: I recall reading that this isn’t actually the case. Maybe you read different.

Otherwise this gets awkward….

Life expectancy by the mid point of the last century was only around 50 it much closer to 80 today and should peak out somewhere around 127 max unless they can find a suitable way to reverse ageing effects. 

Healthier is debatable as the pharmaceutical company in cooperation with Doctors have tried to engineer a situation where people have more ailments but they have medical treatments no to fix or correct the issue they most likely have introduced but to manage the symptoms for a high fee they can charge to an insurance organization. Which the VA certainly participates in as well.

[SteamyAmerican]

Life expectancy by the mid point of the last century was only around 50 it much closer to 80 today and should peak out somewhere around 127 max unless they can find a suitable way to reverse ageing effects. 

Healthier is debatable as the pharmaceutical company in cooperation with Doctors have tried to engineer a situation where people have more ailments but they have medical treatments no to fix or correct the issue they most likely have introduced but to manage the symptoms for a high fee they can charge to an insurance organization. Which the VA certainly participates in as well.

Okay. So 70 years ago. Or roughly 3 generations.

Sorry. I must’ve read that Covid and the disruption it caused actually dropped the average life expectancy and decreased lifespan for the first time in U.S. history.

I gotta quit reading Time magazine.

[SomeStupidName]

Okay. So 70 years ago. Or roughly 3 generations.

Sorry. I must’ve read that Covid and the disruption it caused actually dropped the average life expectancy and decreased lifespan for the first time in U.S. history.

I gotta quit reading Time magazine.

You probably should, they sound like crackpots.