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Trump says he bombed Iran
(04-05-2026, 02:57 PM)Bush Master Wrote: AK
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What is the context  of this image?? There were reports on Tasnim of the rescue being a failure and then we bombed the survivor to cover up failure, which was obvious tripe. That is modern gear, are those Iranian patches? A separate report also claimed the rescue success was a lie and that the scandal will break soon because they captured a pilot. I dismissed both as nonsense. Is this an AI image from an older incident  or something?
(04-05-2026, 02:22 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: You just described the DNC.

You are delusional. 

For 20 years I’ve been following the PNAC became Heritage Foundation and Clear Channel became iHeart Radio. 

Michael Powell (son of)
became chair of the FCC 2001. 

Let’s throw in FOX Entertainment — the soap opera of Fake News — not required to prove anything — because they’re entertainment. 

If nothing else — people need to wake up to the systematic takeover of the airwaves.
(04-05-2026, 03:18 PM)vonclod Wrote: North Korea has been at it almost as long..why aren't you bombing them?

North Korea's situation is nothing like Iran's, this is remedial AF

We had a war that settled the Korean peninsula. For starters, I suspect you know this or perhaps you have long Covid and have forgotten

Iran took quite a few civilian hostages in 79. What is your North Korean analog?

Where's North Korea's backing of terrorist groups to the level Iran supported Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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When every word is to be believed as fact, you have no interest in a competing set of facts.

And when you run the government, you can just shut that program down.
Quote:On Feb. 4, the Trump administration abruptly shuttered this widely accepted account of humanity and its flags, nations, customs, militaries and borders. The CIA framed the move as one of progress for an agency whose core mission has changed.

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(04-05-2026, 03:37 PM)putnam6 Wrote: North Korea's situation is nothing like Iran's, this is remedial AF

We had a war that settled the Korean peninsula. For starters, I suspect you know this or perhaps you have long Covid and have forgotten

Iran took quite a few civilian hostages in 79. What is your North Korean analog?

Where's North Korea's backing of terrorist groups to the level Iran supported Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis


"reports in 2009 and 2010 from French, Japanese, South Korean, and Israeli sources described North Korean programs to provide arms and training to Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, two groups on the U.S. list of international terrorist organizations. Large quantities of North Korean arms bound for Iran, intercepted in 2009, contained weapons that Iran supplies heavily to Hezbollah and Hamas. Moreover, a large body of reports describe a long-standing, collaborative relationship between North Korea and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps."

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(04-05-2026, 03:13 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: We don't live in a stagnant world...

And Democratic leaders are corrupt, their words are meaningless...

And Trump changes his mind according to which path rakes him more money...

And Trump's followers will loyally and unquestioningly follow him wherever he meanders or uturns

Probably but the question remains what happens in 2028

Conventional logic says Trump's war lost the midterms and will be a lame duck President at best; at worst, he will be impeached for various reasons, real or imagined, in his last 2 years.

Then we have Gavin Newsom as President and he will want to build highspeed rail in help rebuilding Iran

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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(04-05-2026, 02:44 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Odd that Trump never brought up the war with Iran while he was campaigning, saying quite the opposite.

I also don't remember seeing any Trump supporters on the board talking about the need to "finish the war" with Iran that has allegedly been going on longer than I've been alive.
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You would be correct. I was very upset about this, and have been quite vocal about it. However!!!!!!!!!!
Lately, as the days go by, post by post, my state of mind is wanting to win. Not just end this, I want to feel like we came out of this with something more. As I study this sudden slow change in my perception, I am trying to understand it. I wonder if it is like a hidden tribal/civilizational thing that just happens to pop up when it feels like we are taking alot of damage. The more I see our stuff falling out of the sky, or getting smacked on the ground, the angrier I am getting

And with keeping in balance, I completely understand why a defending civilization would want to destroy as much of our stuff, especially since it is not entirely, but somewhat in our interest to be waging this conflict. I still do not want to cheerlead the conflict and relish in the violent deaths of patriots on all sides. But conflicts will be fought whether we want them to or not. We could know the true reasons and still not understand why. This is not leading to WW3, this is the very peak of WW3 in the 21st century.

Remembering history, I do not want to lose that, even if our justification is not 100% pure (barely 15% pure if you ask me) . If tens of thousands of volunteer soldiers are ready to sacrifice whatever it takes for this civilizational battle, I would much rather be 100% supportive and be in their corner instead of trying to bring down their morale. Russia has subs there, oh fucking well. if they want to get it I guess they can too.

Warriors across time , for whatever reason, have dreamed of epic battles where they slay their civilization's enemies or meet their end by a worthy foe for eternal glory. Time led to knowledge, and that mindset while not extinct, is much less proliferate than it used to be in male society. And yet, that yearning still exists because danger always exists. Because free will determines it will happen. it just does not seem rational with all the machines we have  developed to continue  to have to be this way. Who am I to challenge the  nature of life, perpetually in conflict as a state of survival?

If our warriors are willing to make the fight, I will support them. I will still pray for all humans, if they must meet their end let it be swift and instant. Probably should not be difficult in the age of flying navigable bombs. No one is prepared for the body count I think, it will be stomach churning. I think Kharg island should actually be completely obliterated, and the landing should be Qeshm or the sole Naval base that was sanitized early on. if we are really going to conquer Persia, we are going to have to sink a few Russian subs and target some Chinese satellites. 21st Century may as well go full spectrum civilizational war. Refining and transport hubs can be rebuilt on Qeshm on the South side and incorporate existing underground infrastructure. There are going to be a lot of robots suddenly show up in this ground op, and on both sides not just ours. 

As long as the nuke talk is kept to the opinion pages of warhawks, all sides will keep it traditionally kinetic. Of course Russia will take advantage and may take a bit more of Ukraine than it originally expected it could. China will most certainly make a move on Taiwan at that point.

I think what we must all remember though, is people are making money from this right now, which means we can, and maybe are, making money as well. Refining capacity, smelters, and equipment will  need to be rebuilt. Mines shall provide the material. Who controls the mines and refining capacity with the energy situation so tumultuous? Well, im guessing that is what talks between the big three global powers will work out once this battle concludes ..... Sounds kind of crazy just discussing it this way. Kind of sociopath like IMO.

What a hell of a time to be alive I tell you! I can only imagine what it will be like telling my grandkids about what the times were like twenty or thirty years from now. Another thing to remember?? It is just another chunk of time and history. No world ending. Just another thread in the fabric. Another thing to read about in a school a hundred years from now, or make light of in conversation at the pub. Another chapter to forget ... and repeat .  Mad Mad
Argh this repetition is getting so old though .... like hundreds of thousands of years too old.
(04-05-2026, 03:52 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: "reports in 2009 and 2010 from French, Japanese, South Korean, and Israeli sources described North Korean programs to provide arms and training to Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, two groups on the U.S. list of international terrorist organizations. Large quantities of North Korean arms bound for Iran, intercepted in 2009, contained weapons that Iran supplies heavily to Hezbollah and Hamas. Moreover, a large body of reports describe a long-standing, collaborative relationship between North Korea and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps."

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Quote:Important Context and Limits

Indirect vs. direct:

Much support routes through Iran/Syria or front companies rather than overt state-to-group ties. It is often commercial (hard currency for the regime) but meets legal/intelligence definitions of "backing" (material aid to designated terrorists).

Not comprehensive sponsorship:

Unlike Iran (which provides funding, command elements, and training camps), North Korea's role appears more transactional—arms/tech for revenue—without evidence of directing attacks or massive ongoing subsidies. No public proof of nuclear/biological transfers to terrorists.



Recent focus (2023–2026):

Emphasis has been on weapons to Hamas amid Gaza conflict and broader proliferation (e.g., to Russia for Ukraine, which is state-to-state). U.S. threat assessments highlight North Korea's WMD programs and cyber theft but do not contradict the SST basis.

North Korea's position: It rejects all accusations as "fabrications" by hostile powers and claims no support for terrorism.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(04-05-2026, 03:55 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Probably but the question remains what happens in 2028

Conventional logic says Trump's war lost the midterms and will be a lame duck President at best; at worst, he will be impeached for various reasons, real or imagined, in his last 2 years.

Then we have Gavin Newsom as President and he will want to build highspeed rail in help rebuilding Iran

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Both parties need to be burned down because both parties are leading us straight to hell

in fact, when Trump wrote, "Hell will REIGN"

I don't think that was a typo



N. Korea has also been designated a state sponsor of terrorism and there are unverified rumors they're sending weapons to Iran rn



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