Trump says he bombed Iran

[bastion]

Iran is hanging on against the assault and punching back. Getting hotter in Lebanon. A reasonable chance Iran will come out with a nuclear weapons test soon. Can see a few heads on this board exploding when that happens.

There's zero chance of an Iranian nuke test in the next decade, same as prior to the current conflict; only way it could be possible is if China, NK or Russia supplied it which is still highly unlikely (though a lot more likely than before current conflict).

It'd take several months to a couple of years for them to regain access to the 60% uranium gas stockpile that was burried in last years war, a couple of years to extract it then build new centrifuge complexes to enrich to 90% and then make major advances in materials science before they could begin assembling a bomb.

There's a far greater risk of them making one now the regime has dropped the Fatwa against nukes but a long. long way off having any capacity to make them on multiple fronts.

[Kwaka]

There's zero chance of an Iranian nuke test in the next decade,

Not according to the narrative. I don't know where Iran is with it. Know there are motivated to get one to prevent such an assault again. As for what kind of international support, another gray zone. In how Iran shot down 4 planes today it is look good.

Maybe once Iran is done and ready to call time out it will set off its test nuke to close the case.

[Creaky]

Iran is hanging on against the assault and punching back. Getting hotter in Lebanon. A reasonable chance Iran will come out with a nuclear weapons test soon. Can see a few heads on this board exploding when that happens.

As for what else could end this war? The Iran military is too deep underground to be hit from the skies. Trump would of done it by now if he could. How US/Israel started this war, Russia/China has more support for Iran. Going to take years and millions for a ground invasion. Does Trump pull out the war card to cancel the election and keep the status quo?

Or does Israel fall after sustained pressure by more boots on the ground? The whole Middle East region looks divided with spot fires all over the place. Iran will stop when they want to, going to have to be some big changes somewhere before they do.

Yeah I hear their pretty close, might even have a delivery system ready to go
Kinda wonder what Israel will do then, balance out the war or make them go harder
If Yemen shut down the Red Sea, bye world

[andy06shake]

Not according to the narrative. I don't know where Iran is with it. Know there are motivated to get one to prevent such an assault again. As for what kind of international support, another gray zone. In how Iran shot down 4 planes today it is look good.

Maybe once Iran is done and ready to call time out it will set off its test nuke to close the case.

They could, however, almost certainly make a few dirty bombs.

Which, as you probably know, is easier to accomplish and merely involves dispersing radioactive material with conventional explosives.

And it doesn't require advanced nuclear physics or precision engineering.

Some people are claiming they could produce enough weapons-grade material very quickly, in literally days or weeks.

But how could they do that without a working centrifuge, and the 60% enriched buried material, which was ""obliterated"" last June, is a bit of a head scratcher...

[Kwaka]

They could, however, almost certainly make a few dirty bombs.

I don't see them doing that. Not going to help on the world stage to enter the mutually assured destruction zone. Maybe if desperate and that is all they have, a sign they are losing if they do that.

Iran has been using cluster ammunition, lot of shrapnel damage over a big area. Hypersonics move quick. 2 Stage ballistics with avoidance capabilities. Testing how much Iron Dome can handle. Some of it is still functional. As for it being enough in the war of attrition, don't look good for Israel with the economics of it.

[andy06shake]

I don't see them doing that. Not going to help on the world stage to enter the mutually assured destruction zone. Maybe if desperate and that is all they have, a sign they are losing if they do that.

Iran has been using cluster ammunition, lot of shrapnel damage over a big area. Hypersonics move quick. 2 Stage ballistics with avoidance capabilities. Testing how much Iron Dome can handle. Some of it is still functional. As for it being enough in the war of attrition, don't look good for Israel with the economics of it.

Neither do I, realistically, unless pushed over the edge...
 
But think of the mess they could make of Jerusalem with a few of their ballistic missiles loaded with dirty bomb cluster munitions that they managed to cobble together.
 
Parts of the city could be contaminated for months or even years, depending on the material used.
 
What happens if they target somewhere like the Holy Wall?
 
It's one of the most sacred places in Judaism, tied to prayer, identity, and history.

Blocking access, even temporarily, would carry huge implications...

[Astyanax]

That’s where you’re missing the whole point.

No, I got the point. The point is that you're simply gagging to flatten Iran and slaughter its people, and the flimsiest excuse will do for you. 

Sure, I get the point. The bloodthirsty, cowardly, moronic point.

[andy06shake]

No, I got the point. The point is that you're simply gagging to flatten Iran and slaughter its people, and the flimsiest excuse will do for you. 

Sure, I get the point. The bloodthirsty, cowardly, moronic point.

I think some people see Trump's war, or rather wish to see it, as a new holy crusade of sorts.

And when people frame war as good vs evil or religion vs religion.

Well, they can justify doing just about anything to one another in the name of their God...

[Astyanax]

Not reported in the Western media yet...

Iran Refuses To Meet US Officials In Pakistan, Ceasefire Efforts Hit Wall NDTV

Iran rejects US 48-hour ceasefire proposal Times of India

Iran says it rejects Trump offer of 48-hour ceasefire: Report Middle East Eye

Iran rejects U.S. proposal for 48-hour ceasefire Xinhua

Sooooooo much winning.

[Kurokage]

War isn't a video game, champ.

I think it is for Trump.

He only cares about the 'loot boxes' he can grab just like in the most popular FPS war games!!