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This post was last modified: 04-03-2026, 06:38 PM by SteamyAmerican. 
(04-03-2026, 05:05 PM)Vermilion Wrote: “That’s why there should be calculus and strategy before we go to war.”
Such a ridiculous statement.
How many thousands of people in the military, government, and civilian think tanks do you wager generated the intelligence, economic, tactical and strategic scenarios needed to hit Iran?
It’s calculus you can’t even begin to comprehend.
To say this “excursion” wasn’t completely and absolutely detailed by thousands of people who’s life is doing just that is dumbfuckery.
Every single president since Clinton received the same intelligence briefing on Iran's nuclear timeline.
Every single one was told the window was closing.
Every single one chose to kick it down the road because the political cost of acting was higher than the political cost of waiting.
Trump got the same briefing.
60kg of 86% enriched uranium.
4 weeks to breakout.
Material for 2 bombs.
He chose to act knowing it would tank his approval.
He chose to act knowing some of his own base might waver.
He chose to act knowing some NATO allies would refuse to help.
He chose to act knowing gas prices would spike.
The difference between Trump and every president before him isn't intelligence.
They all had the same data.
The difference is courage.
Every president had the same file on their desk.
Only one opened it and did something.
Sure.
Then promptly fires the Top Brass.
This ain’t ending in 2-3 weeks. And the curve ain’t flattening.
Dow down and Gas up after his non-speech.
Staycations this summer it is for Americans.
Unless you’re enlisted. Then you get a vacation across the pond.
ETA: and our “greatest ally” won’t join the fight let alone help us search for downed pilots.
Awesome.
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Glad to see the anti-American "joy squad" is still hard at it.
For the record, I still support our troops (my son is deployed currently), our country, and our President.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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(04-03-2026, 06:34 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Sure.
Then promptly fires the Top Brass.
This ain’t ending in 2-3 weeks. And the curve ain’t flattening.
Dow down and Gas up after his non-speech.
Staycations this summer it is for Americans.
Unless you’re enlisted. Then you get a vacation across the pond.
ETA: and our “greatest ally” won’t join the fight let alone help us search for downed pilots.
Awesome.
Pete has fired 26 in 14 months.
Obama fired 197 in five years.
Pete needs to bump those numbers up.
Those are rookie numbers.
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(04-03-2026, 06:58 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Glad to see the anti-American "joy squad" is still hard at it.

For the record, I still support our troops (my son is deployed currently), our country, and our President.

For the record, I also still support our troops (including your son) and our country. But our President doesn't support either of those two. He's perfectly happy to piss away your son's life if it comes to that, along with our country's wealth and standing in the world, all to "make a ton of money" personally. He is not acting in the interest of you, me, or the country.
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(04-03-2026, 06:58 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Glad to see the anti-American "joy squad" is still hard at it.

For the record, I still support our troops (my son is deployed currently), our country, and our President.

Not sure whom you refer to….
I was just so glad when Trump announced no Air Defenses left in Iran.
Only to have more aircraft downed.
Truth hurts Suck it up Buttercup.
Godspeed to our troops when they land.
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(04-03-2026, 07:09 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Pete has fired 26 in 14 months.
Obama fired 197 in five years.
Pete needs to bump those numbers up.
Those are rookie numbers.
Fair.
Since we are fact-checking and all, were we about to land troops in the ME at the time?
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(04-03-2026, 07:28 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Not sure whom you refer to….
I was just so glad when Trump announced no Air Defenses left in Iran.
Only to have more aircraft downed.
Truth hurts Suck it up Buttercup.
Godspeed to our troops when they land.
War isn't a video game, champ.
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The only people left standing in solidarity with Trump, who don't have the spine to even question his behavior and motives, are the radical right
They are just as brainwashed, deluded and dangerous as the radical left
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(04-03-2026, 07:32 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: War isn't a video game, champ.
Agreed.
Strange then that the U.S. has been at it with the exception of 17 of our 250 years.
Care to explain?
Or are we just that good? The world too dangerous? Our citizenry too informed? Beholden to corporate and international interests? It benefits the American public that much? We have a plethora of disposable lives to send into it? Etc etc.
I’ll wait.
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(04-03-2026, 07:35 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The only people left standing in solidarity with Trump, who don't have the spine to even question his behavior and motives, are the radical right
They are just as brainwashed, deluded and dangerous as the radical left
Kitten, you couldn't be more wrong.
I think the regime in Iran needed ended and Trump has been the only one with balls to do it.
Israel is an ally, whether you like Jews or not, you're going to have to deal with it.
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