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(03-30-2026, 01:18 PM)Kurokage Wrote:  I picked the battles/opponents that were similar type of battle's faced in a ground war with Iran, size of nation and type of warfare they faced. I could also add Afghanistan which is more recent and again no walked away with their heads held high.

Grenada was a tiny little opponent in comparison to those I've spoken about.

No shit I was being sarcastic, but Iran is nothing like Korea or Vietnam for a multitude of reasons.

As for Iraq and Afghanistan, politically, were abject failures; the military was restrained and constrained by politicians and public opinion.

Connected politicians, however, believe it was successful as hell

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(03-30-2026, 01:30 PM)putnam6 Wrote: No shit I was being sarcastic, but Iran is nothing like Korea or Vietnam for a multitude of reasons.

As for Iraq and Afghanistan, politically, were abject failures; the military was restrained and constrained by politicians and public opinion.

Connected politicians, however, believe it was successful as hell

I missed the sarcasm, sorry. (It does happen over the internet a lot!!) 

I see Iran being more like the Korean war for the fanaticism, and Vietnam for the asymmetrical fighting soldiers will see.

The Iraq and Afghanistan question I think is more about how warfare has changed in the 20/21st century. Public opinion and voter pressure as well as political morons lead to more issues for the military than the actual battle in my opinion. 

Any ground war in Iran in my opinion will have a sprinkle of the points I made and could lead to a chaotic battle.



 
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(03-30-2026, 01:18 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Im just offering my opinion too, just as it is Dimitri's opinion...

Your opinion of my opinion is that it's a worse opinion than Trump's opinion


Trump habitually lies
his followers admit to knowing he lies
yet, they choose to support him, anyway 

Anyone who doesn't fall in line with this insanity is called "anti-American"
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(03-30-2026, 01:09 PM)andy06shake Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...af548f.jpg]

- "Iran didn't control strait, now it does".    Mostly true at this time.
-  "Iran oil was sanctioned, now it's not".   True.
- "Iran was not building nuclear, now it will".   False.  It was and will continue.
- "US bases in Gulf were assets, now liabilities".   False.  Still assets.
- "Inflation was declining, now increasing".   To Be Determined.   Depends on how long this goes on.
The moment we all recognize a situation as "war,"  we must accept that they are as children... molding themselves into our "now"... no two are alike, in any precise way...

Since we are now including the synthesized imagery of mystery producers to speak in the dialogue, I have to accept that no one cares how the imagery itself "informs" the narrative within...

I don't really know how to refer to our collective need to narrate our way into a perception that war is a single thing.  Somehow, powerful people conning their willing "masters," or some blathering con job they all will walk away from like kings...

That "war" requires intent is the point...
manufacture, contrive, muddle into, 'use' for mass hysteria...

Hence we expect that war comes with it's own end pre-defined...

otherwise Orwellian 'warnings' become moot....
a perpetual state of wars will be accompanied with sporadic celebration as "peace" now and then.

A prediction:

Someone at the end of this road, when people will virtue signal and pridefully cheer over any outcomes that affirm their perspective... Or jeer and boo at all the ways they are damaged unfairly...

Immediately AFTER the conductors of war are satisfied. Has "peace" somehow become a "tool?"

I'm most surprised that many people I observe are deeply entrenched in the 'story,' so much so they must "activate" to simply speak about it... it's natural, I suppose...

But war ... meaning the physical destruction inflicted on others as a purpose,"

always... perennially... seem more more about exploitation... and now even peace achieved through military submission...

is all about the spoils... over which other wars can always be fought.
(03-30-2026, 01:49 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Trump habitually lies
his followers admit to knowing he lies
yet, they choose to support him, anyway 

Anyone who doesn't fall in line with this insanity is called "anti-American"

I follow no one unquestioningly,

And I'd question Trump more, but it's been done so many times here and elsewhere. What's the point?

His flaws take away from his positives, but there's no Trump Presidency without Hillary, and the fact that he ChumbaWhumba'd his way to a 2nd term resonates with some people.

Im not emotionally connected to how other people think, it's their right and it's not interfering with my rights. Hell Im here because I don't talk about this in my RL hardly at all. Speaking of real life thats what it comes down to: life's experiences shape who we are.

White male Boomer/GenX from the rural deep south, we say grace, and we say ma'am, and if you ain't in to that we don't give a damn.

I only went to college for a year and a semester, but I loved history and had a fantastic professor who knew her stuff, and really pointed me in all kinds of directions.

In the fall of 83 she said the Berlin wall would fall before the end of the decade. I was skeptical, and we argued a bit in class; she argued vehemently that it could occur sooner but definitely before the end of the decade. She believed humanity was slowly but surely evolving, and the system is self-correcting; societal situations that are detrimental to our ultimate evolution sooner or later would reach a breaking point and shatter, and we evolve. I love to hear her thoughts about Iran; she had a tremendous influence on how I look at world events.



His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(03-30-2026, 01:49 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Trump habitually lies
his followers admit to knowing he lies
yet, they choose to support him, anyway 

Anyone who doesn't fall in line with this insanity is called "anti-American"


Which tells me the Left STILL doesn't get it. Yeah, he's an asshole, but what the Left continues to fail at understanding is that their candidates are so bad, so batshit Far Left crazy in their ideaology, that Trump seems like a good choice.

Stop and think about that.
(03-30-2026, 01:49 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Trump habitually lies
his followers admit to knowing he lies
yet, they choose to support him, anyway 

Anyone who doesn't fall in line with this insanity is called "anti-American"


Well I can possibly be corrected but, as to my knowledge he wasn’t in the Epstein files, wasnt losing his mind and wasnt an irrelevant cackling stupid woman
Trump with all his faults was, sadly, the better of the two options imho
Russian roulette with only two chambers, both loaded. 
US politics is a hot mess
(03-30-2026, 03:44 PM)David64 Wrote: Which tells me the Left STILL doesn't get it. Yeah, he's an asshole, but what the Left continues to fail at understanding is that their candidates are so bad, so batshit Far Left crazy in their ideaology, that Trump seems like a good choice.

Stop and think about that.

Again

I am not the left

From my vantage point, there is no distinction between Trump and the left

That's what MAGA continues to fail at understanding



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