Trump says he bombed Iran

[putnam6]

Its on Telegram lets see if it materializes but....

theres also this... so who knows N12 Reporters chat has been reliable but who knows

This looks like typical fast-moving rumor amplification on social media/Telegram, where a partial detail from credible reporting (Ravid's mention of Islamabad as a potential venue in mediation efforts) gets stripped of nuance and presented as fact. Pakistan's role in relaying messages fits its historical mediation positioning (relations with both US and Iran), but nothing confirms a direct senior-level meeting there this week.If new developments emerge (e.g., an official confirmation), it could change, but as of now, treat the exact Telegram/X claim as overstated or unverified. For the most reliable take, check Ravid's Axios pieces or his X account directly.

In one of his X posts today, Ravid added (paraphrased from an Israeli official source): The mediating countries (implying Turkey/Egypt/Pakistan) were trying to convene a meeting in Islamabad — with Iran's Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf (Parliament Speaker) and other officials representing Tehran, and US side possibly including Witkoff, Jared Kushner, and potentially Vice President JD Vance — possibly later this week.

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Bye bye APT42, say hello to Handala

 While Israel announced today that it is carrying out strikes in Tehran, cyber researcher Nariman Gharib claims that one of the sites hit was a safe house of the IRGC's cyber headquarters on Malekloo Street, where individuals like Seyyed Ali Aghamiri, Yaser Balaghi, and Masoud Jalili could have been. According to the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI, they are IRGC personnel charged in 2024 for a phishing and hack-and-leak campaign against senior American officials, media figures, and individuals related to political campaigns in the U.S., including the Trump campaign. If these names are connected to the world of groups, the most interesting direction is APT42 or Charming Kitten. 

[CriticalStinker]

The question is ... if the USA hadn't gone in, what would Iran have looked like in the future.   And it's not a pretty picture.   Nuclear.  Unhinged.   Aggressive.   'Devil may care' attitude coupled with nutball religious zealotry with 'end times' fever.

I don’t think them being a direct threat to the US was a guarantee.

How many countries were we confident we’d have full scale conflict with post WWII? Many of them are our allies now. Hell, we built Irans first nuclear reactor and they are the only other country with F-14s. That’s a testament on how quickly things can change.

Most Iranians alive now weren’t when they overthrew the Shah. I’m not convinced there was massive anti American sentiment amongst the people. They had a 9/11 vigil in Tehran after the attack.

That may be different now. There may be more of a deeply ingrained sense we are their enemy now whereas before that was just through proxy.

[SteamyAmerican]

  I've seen maps of the supposed 'greater Israel'.  Propaganda.  There is ZERO chance that the 7 million Jews in Israel can take over and hold Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and half of Iraq.  It's absurd.

Why do you think Americans are in Iran right now?

Be honest.

[Kurokage]

So far we have Trump making claims that an Iranian "leader" is in talks with Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner. Yet Iran have denied any such talks have taken place.

What is known is that Trumps threats of attacking Iran's power infrastructure in the next 48 hours didn't go down well with Iran's closest neighbours, Iran threaten to attack all U.S. backed countries energy supplies. As most use electricity to power desalination plants, many have pressure on America to not carry out the threat.    

Trump has lied before about being in talks with Iran, so until some definitive proof appears I think we should take this with a pinch of salt!!
 

• U.S. President Donald Trump has extended his deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, saying the U.S. will hold off striking power plants in the country for five days.
  
• In his announcement on Truth Social, Trump also held out the possibility of a resolution to the war — though Iranian officials denied there were negotiations. Trump later told reporters that Iran wants “to make a deal,” and claimed U.S. envoys have been holding talks with a “respected” Iranian leader.
  

[SteamyAmerican]

Israel attacks when they themselves are in danger and/or attacked.
Iran, on the other hand, is the aggressor threatening to wipe countries
off the face of the planet.   Two very different things.

Right.

Because the settler attacks on those vicious Palestinian towns is outright defense.

I mean really now….

ETA the USS Liberty would like a word.

[FlyersFan]

Why do you think Americans are in Iran right now?

Be honest.

I've answered this before.
For multiple reasons.

- Iranian threat.   On the cusp of being a nuclear nation that has PROMISED to wipe out Israel and American interests as well as our allies.   They have advertised their intent ... and they are bat crap crazy religious zealots who will do what they said.   And they were negotiating in bad faith, lying during negotiations with no intent to stop their weapons program.

- Bibi pushed the war onto America.  He needs it done for the security of Israel AND for his own interests of keeping his job and staying out of jail.

Both are true at the same time.

[FlyersFan]

So far we have Trump making claims that an Iranian "leader" is in talks with Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner. Yet Iran have denied any such talks have taken place.
 

In this case, dealing with two lying entities, I'll believe Iran.   Their aggressive actions say that they are not in talks with Washington.  And Trump obviously was having one of his hissy-fits when he made the 48 hour threat, but someone (Bessent??) talked him out of it and now Trumps trying to save face by falsely claiming negotiations are going on.

[putnam6]

Yalda Hakim
@SkyYaldaHakim
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1/ More from my Israeli security establishment source: the very existence of negotiations – even if publicly denied by the Iranians – opens an alternative path that aligns well with the postponement of the ultimatum. It is possible that a framework is emerging similar to past ceasefire arrangements, particularly the model of the “20-point plan” in Gaza: an initial agreement on general principles alongside a cessation of hostilities, followed by a transition to negotiations not conducted under fire.

2/ In such a scenario:
An agreement on principles could be reached in the near term, possibly this week; the sides would agree on a general framework for ending the war, while leaving the substantive issues for later stages. The U.S. would frame this as a strategic success – preventing a nuclear capability or achieving a “preventive war” outcome; Iran, on the other hand, would present it as a victory of resilience and attrition.

3/ The critical phase would come afterward: the transition to full negotiations. At this point, the U.S. may lose interest and reduce its level of engagement, while Iran returns to a domain where it is stronger – prolonged, complex, and attritional negotiations, with the ability to stretch time and erode achievements.

Nicole Grajewski (@NicoleGrajewski)
Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, Speaker of the Majlis, and Ali Asghar Mir Hijazi, former deputy chief of staff to the Supreme Leader, are apparently rumored to be the key figures shaping decision-making in Tehran.

X•Today at 11:13 AM[quote]


[quote]ניצן שפירא בטלגרם
A source involved in the negotiations said that the phone call scheduled for today between the US and Iran will be critical for the continuation of the negotiations. (Barak Ravid)
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Translated from: Hebrew•Today at 11:23 AM

[Kurokage]

In this case, dealing with two lying entities, I'll believe Iran.   Their aggressive actions say that they are not in talks with Washington.  And Trump obviously was having one of his hissy-fits when he made the 48 hour threat, but someone (Bessent??) talked him out of it and now Trumps trying to save face by falsely claiming negotiations are going on.

I think it's a remote possibility but as you say, both parties are very good at lying to cover their asses.

I know that many middle eastern countries situated around Iran rely heavily on desalination plants to supply millions with drinkable water, and any long term disruption to that could cause massive problems.
Iran has threaten to attack them if their oil and energy infrastructure is attacked

[putnam6]

In this case, dealing with two lying entities, I'll believe Iran.   Their aggressive actions say that they are not in talks with Washington.  And Trump obviously was having one of his hissy-fits when he made the 48 hour threat, but someone (Bessent??) talked him out of it and now Trumps trying to save face by falsely claiming negotiations are going on.

Rumors suggest it was Reza saying they are close to making a move, don't take out critical infrastructure
and while a segment would be fine with his transitional plans, others are lukewarm at best, including Trump.

Perhaps Trump gave him 5 days...