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(03-04-2026, 12:52 PM)Waterglass Wrote: Spot on LSU. I assume Tigers Football. I watched two long Podcasts on YouTube TV yesterday on Iran, the war, etc. One was by Glen Beck who was quite grounded and without pomp. He basically said that the end game is about annilation of Islam before Islam annilates all of Western civilization. That includes the UK. He also said that guys like you responded to dont have the ability to Critically Think such the arent even worth talking to. Ever since 1979 when this so called Supreme whatever came to power his agenda for the world was and is to Genocide all of Western civilization. Even ET the Aliens would not want that as the ole white boy did invent alot of stuff.
Plus for the man in the UK I wonder if hes OK with Supreme Leader allowing NINE YEAR OLD GIRLS AS BRIDES FOR SOME SMELLY OLD MEN WITH scraggly BEARDS. Honestly, they look crusty to the extreme. Possibly UK man is OK with it if hes into pedo as thats what is being pushed in the USA.
FINALLY - GO Texas on voting to eliminate all of Islam from TEXAS
- Thank the EU for voting to designate the Revolutionary Guard as Terriorists
Waterglass out
Yes indeed, I love Tigers football but I love their baseball even more.
So many people sit around clueless because they weren't taught better in school. The US, the UK, and many other countries are hated by Islam and if not for our military, we'd likely have been conquered by now.
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(03-04-2026, 04:38 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I never said we were allies. I was responding to someone saying we’ve been at war with Iran for 50 years.
With all thats going on, and you are going to defend semantics hill ?
The fact of the matter a regular American in Iran in the 80s gets their throat slit at worst or gets taken hostage and held for ransom at best. And an American soldier or stray pilot would get the shit beat out of them
Only a see eye ehh agent could negotiate; everybody else was persona non grata
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But change is
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(03-04-2026, 12:52 PM)Maxmars Wrote: This idea of the long-standing stating of "war" with Iran has surfaced here more than once.
It is VERY crucial to understand that the 'misapprehension' 'misunderstanding' and otherwise "advertised" shock of this moment has to do only with the media "downplaying" it for decades...
A good percentage of our news consumers actually think they are "informed."
That's the effect of years of 'think-tank' media strategies.
This was never not a war.... just ask the Iranian leaders.
Now they will ply their cutting-edge 20th century tech against the behemoth they 'chose' to target.
It will be offset by media telling us to feel sorry for the pummeling they evoke...
explaining how 'we' are the bullies...
After half a century of fully-sponsored murder and targeted-destruction to 'teach the West' a lesson.
"We" are the bullies, "we" are "picking on them."
Media will always inform an audience of both "how 'we' all feel" about their "chosen narrative," and parade talking head patrols before us... it is a true 'game.'
It happens on both sides.... both media presences equally bullshit...
useless as information because it's no longer a tool for dissemination, but 'social engineering.'
I can only imagine the mass confusion by many people on which side to choose if the media presented facts and not opinion.
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(03-04-2026, 01:04 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Try harder. Not taking your bait.
I said what I had to say. We both know it wasn't bait.
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(03-04-2026, 04:23 PM)putnam6 Wrote: This could be great, or this could be bad... the Coalition Infantry Arm had better be giving them superior intelligence and weapons
Last I heard, America has Kurds listed as terrorists.
I could be wrong about that, but I don't think so.
And so we wouldn't be arming people we put a 'terrorist' label on, I'd think.
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(03-04-2026, 04:53 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Last I heard, America has Kurds listed as terrorists.
I could be wrong about that, but I don't think so.
And so we wouldn't be arming people we put a 'terrorist' label on, I'd think.
Their are different flavors of Kurds in the region IIRC
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(03-04-2026, 04:51 PM)putnam6 Wrote: With all thats going on, and you are going to defend semantics hill ?
The fact of the matter a regular American in Iran in the 80s gets their throat slit at worst or gets taken hostage and held for ransom at best. And an American soldier or stray pilot would get the shit beat out of them
Only a see eye ehh agent could negotiate; everybody else was persona non grata
There’s a lot of countries like that.
I don’t feel the need to go to a vast majority of Africa, parts of South America, parts of Asia. But we’re not bombing them.
Also, I don’t think it’s semantics when you tried to counter my questioning of being at war with Iran when your rebuttal said we weren’t right at the beginning. Nor have I ever pretended Iran is a friend in the slightest. Nor have they been for close to 100 years. Because installing a friendly government somewhere isn’t friendly, it’s putting a thumb on a population for your interests, something that can foment hostilities. That’s a lesson we struggle to learn.
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Quote:Are these different Kurds than the ones America has deemed as terrorists
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Yes, the Kurds reportedly involved in the current cross-border actions into Iran are different from the ones the US has designated as terrorists.
The US-designated terrorist Kurdish groups are primarily:- The PKK (Kurdistan Workers' Party), a militant group based mainly in Turkey (with operations extending to Iraq and Syria), designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the US State Department since 1997.
- The PJAK (Free Life Party of Kurdistan), explicitly described as the Iranian branch/affiliate of the PKK, designated by the US Treasury in 2009 for its ties to the PKK.
These groups operate as insurgent/guerrilla forces against Turkey (PKK) and Iran (PJAK), often from bases in northern Iraq's mountainous border areas like Qandil. They are ideologically aligned (sharing leadership, logistics, and allegiance to figures like Abdullah Öcalan) and focus on armed separatism or autonomy struggles.
In contrast, the reports of "thousands of Iraqi Kurds" launching or preparing ground actions into Iran refer primarily to Iranian Kurdish opposition groups (ethnic Kurds from Iran, often based in exile or camps in Iraq's Kurdistan Region). These include:- PDKI (Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan / KDPI)
- Komala (Komala Party of Iranian Kurdistan)
- PAK (Kurdistan Freedom Party)
- And sometimes PJAK is mentioned separately, but the coalitions emphasize the non-PJAK/PDKI-aligned ones in recent unity efforts.
These groups have formed coalitions against the Iranian regime, with fighters (often called "Peshmerga" in their context) operating along the Iraq-Iran border. Recent reports (from sources like CNN, Reuters, and others around March 3-4, 2026) describe US/CIA discussions to arm or support them for operations to stretch Iranian forces, pin down security units in western Iran, and potentially spark broader uprisings amid the ongoing US-Israeli air campaign.
Key distinctions:- The Iraqi Kurdish authorities (Kurdistan Regional Government / KRG in Erbil) and their official Peshmerga forces (the formal military of the semi-autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan Region) are not the ones launching incursions. The KRG has explicitly denied involvement in the conflict, reinforced borders to prevent infiltrations, and emphasized staying out of the war. They have faced Iranian retaliatory strikes on their territory but are not designated terrorists by the US—in fact, the US has long allied with and armed the Peshmerga (e.g., against ISIS).
- The active cross-border elements are Iranian-origin Kurdish militants hosted in Iraq, not the PKK/PJAK core (though PJAK sometimes overlaps in reports due to shared border areas).
- US policy treats PKK/PJAK as threats (due to attacks on Turkey, a NATO ally), but has engaged with or supported anti-Iran Kurdish opposition groups in the past and appears to be doing so now in this context.
In short: The "Iraqi Kurds" referenced in the Fox News clip and related reports are mostly Iranian Kurdish exiles/militants operating from Iraqi soil—not the US-allied KRG/Peshmerga, and distinct from the PKK/PJAK that carry the terrorist label. This fits a pattern of using proxy/opposition forces to pressure Iran without full US ground commitment.
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(03-04-2026, 04:51 PM)putnam6 Wrote: With all thats going on, and you are going to defend semantics hill ?
The fact of the matter a regular American in Iran in the 80s gets their throat slit at worst or gets taken hostage and held for ransom at best. And an American soldier or stray pilot would get the shit beat out of them
Only a see eye ehh agent could negotiate; everybody else was persona non grata
There’s a lot of countries like that.
I don’t feel the need to go to a vast majority of Africa, parts of South America, parts of Asia. But we’re not bombing them.
Also, I don’t think it’s semantics when you tried to counter my questioning of being at war with Iran when your rebuttal said we weren’t right at the beginning. Nor have I ever pretended Iran is a friend in the slightest. Nor have they been for close to 100 years. Because installing a friendly government somewhere isn’t friendly, it’s putting a thumb on a population for your interests, something that can foment hostilities. That’s a lesson we struggle to learn.
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(03-04-2026, 04:16 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: 80% of Americans supposedly think that eh?
You'll have to come up with something better than a meme to support that statement.
Your memes aren't exactly truthful. 
Well, their source is Occupy Democrats so it's basically just the blind leading the stupid.
They don't have facts to back it up, that's why they only post memes.
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