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(05-23-2026, 02:42 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: We attacked Iran for 440 kg of 60% enriched Uranium below weapons grade of 90%
But if you've ever read about the enrichment process, at 60% it is 4 to 5 weeks away from a working bomb. It may even be they deliberately ONLY enriched it to 60% threshold for this exact reason.
To be always easily "almost there". As close to having a shit load of nukes, without actually having a shitload of nukes, as possible.
You dont enrich 440 kg, to ONLY 60% for nothin', right? Not like it is the top of their enrichment ability, or they hit their plateau to make it weapons grade.
The primary misconception parroted by most is this was AN EMERGING THREAT, and they weren't 4 to 5 weeks away from a bomb since 2020-2021.
In 2021 they had 10 kg
In 2023 they had 100kg
In Late February 2026 they had 440kg.
So they are definitely refining a lot to be 4 to 5 weeks away, and if Trump was more direct and science-based about the urgency of their stockpiling, maybe there wouldn't be such criticism for going in over nukes.
* freaking autocorrect typos
Always safe to assume and believe all the official stories and biased based :facts:.
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(05-23-2026, 02:42 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Trump is mulling of the latest deal from Iran.
Hes 50/50
Link
May 25th this year could be Iran's best ever Memorial Day
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The Nuke threat. Is one of the main reasons the Trump administration has attacked Iran. Another is. The Iranian regime is a sponsor of terrorism globally. And they are in South America. They will always be an increasing threat until they are destroyed.
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Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, utilizing its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force (IRGC-QF) and proxies like Hezbollah to direct, fund, and execute global operations. Its terror campaigns span the Middle East, Europe, and increasingly the Western Hemisphere, often targeting Jewish, Israeli, and Western assets. [1, 2, 3]Global Operations and State Sponsorship- Middle East Dominance: Iran provides billions of dollars annually to a network of proxies, including Hamas in Gaza, the Houthis in Yemen, and various Shia militias in Iraq and Syria. These groups destabilize the region and have repeatedly attacked U.S. and allied interests.
- Worldwide Reach: The IRGC-QF frequently coordinates with operatives abroad to conduct surveillance and plan attacks, including plots in Europe and Southeast Asia. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
South America and Latin AmericaIran maintains a strategic foothold in Latin America, forging alliances and exploiting vulnerable regions for logistical and financial operations. [1, 2]- Historical Tragedies: Iran and Hezbollah were directly responsible for two of the deadliest terror attacks in South American history, both in Buenos Aires, Argentina: the 1992 Israeli Embassy bombing and the 1994 AMIA Jewish community center bombing, which killed a combined 114 people.
- Logistical Hubs: The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) has detailed how Iran uses states like Venezuela to establish commercial, diplomatic, and travel ties, providing cover for IRGC and Hezbollah operatives to launder money, establish shell companies, and move resources throughout the Americas.
- Recent Activity: Operations and disruptions continue to surface. In recent years, authorities have dismantled Hezbollah-linked cells in countries like Peru and monitored suspicious flights from Iranian airlines into South America. Furthermore, investigations by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) regularly track Iranian narco-terrorism links and illicit financial networks operating across the tri-border area of Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay. [1, 2, 3]
For comprehensive, official tracking of these global threats, consult the U.S. Department of State Country Reports on Terrorism.
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(05-23-2026, 03:44 PM)Knows Wrote: The Nuke threat. Is one of the main reasons the Trump administration has attacked Iran. Another is. The Iranian regime is a sponsor of terrorism globally. And they are in South America. They will always be an increasing threat until they are destroyed.

That’s a great idea, wondering who’s going to do it, already given the US a smack on the snout.
I remember the first few pages of this thread, how the US was going to hot knife Iran, bunker busters, warthogs and other magic things to bring those 17 century mullahs to heal, scourge those cave man societies back to the first century, and just look at them rock checkers now
Actually, in hindsight they are acting more civilised than the great us, their foreign minister speaks with clarity and wisdom, more than we can say for your Prez
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(05-23-2026, 05:14 PM)Creaky Wrote: That’s a great idea, wondering who’s going to do it, already given the US a smack on the snout.
I remember the first few pages of this thread, how the US was going to hot knife Iran, bunker busters, warthogs and other magic things to bring those 17 century mullahs to heal, scourge those cave man societies back to the first century, and just look at them rock checkers now
Actually, in hindsight they are acting more civilised than the great us, their foreign minister speaks with clarity and wisdom, more than we can say for your Prez Quote:AI
An estimated 3,500 to 5,500 people have been killed across Iran since the war began on February 28. This total spans the conflict’s most intense hostilities prior to the April ceasefire. [1, 2]The breakdown of reported casualties is as follows:- Iran: Between 3,400 and 3,600 deaths have been reported according to Iran's Forensic Organization, state media, and the U.S.-based human rights group HRANA. This total includes an estimated 1,500 to 1,700 civilians, alongside military personnel.
- Civilian Fatalities: Independent reporting indicates hundreds of women and children are among the civilian casualties, including victims of high-profile strikes on schools and residential areas.
- U.S. Military: At least 13 U.S. service members were killed during operations in the region.
- Other Casualties: Missiles and retaliatory strikes across the broader region have claimed dozens of lives, with casualties also reported in Lebanon, Israel, and neighboring Gulf states. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
For rolling regional casualty tracking, review the live trackers on Al Jazeera. Comprehensive conflict analysis and civilian death records are available via the HRANA news platform. [1]
Looks like the USA is winning if you follow mainstream media. The US is in control of the war.
But I don't know for sure cause I'm not there. And you don't know either.
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(05-23-2026, 03:36 PM)govshill2 Wrote: May 25th this year could be Iran's best ever Memorial Day 
Well, Trump has been trying to get a deal since the start of the cease fire.
Maybe something more like an Armistice Day.
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(05-23-2026, 02:58 PM)bastion Wrote: Agreed with all that - while it does theoretically take only a few months to enrich the 60% iran had to 90% - getting it to weapons grade standard is quite a lot different due to the criticality/localised hotspots and denaturing you mention. Producing a viable format and being able to produce a nuclear weapon would still take them several years even if they still had access to the 60% in the underground reactor US-Israel throtoughly burried last year.
Personally I highly doubt their material science capabilities and ability to relaibly make the perfect spheres required for a proper fissile core - a dirty bomb or very poor yield device would be achievable but they're thankfully a long way off being able to produce fissile cores due to embargoes and impoprt restrictions ....... Actually, it would only take a matter of days to go from 60% to 90%, if they had some of their centrifuges still working, and they very well might. There is pretty good evidence that they moved most, if not all of their UF6 enriched to 60% from the Natanz and Fordow enrichment facilities to the Natanz facility BEFORE the Israeli and US attacks on those two facilities last year. Isfahan is the facility where the UF6 is converted into uranium metal. It also appears that the Isfahan site was not as damaged by the US bunker-buster strikes in June of 2025 as Trump and Hegseth have reported. People and vehicles have been seen coming and going from the tunnel entrances, for example. It's conceivable that Iran could already have converted some of their UF6 to 90% enriched metal at Isfahan.
Also, it looks to me like there are 2 or 3 pathways to a usable bomb for Iran without a long development time. The first, and least risky approach would be a simple gun-type device like the US used on Hiroshima in 1945. It was deployed operationally without a full scale test because the physicists at Los Alamos were convinced from their laboratory experiments that it would work with high confidence. So Iran could just do the same and have 15 kilotons per bomb without having to solve the implosion problem. They could also add a Lithium6-Duteride pellet to a gun-type device and get a mild amount of thermonuclear boost up to around maybe 50 kilotons with little additional risk. And finally, they could maybe try for a two-point implosion device without a full-scale test. The difficulty in making a traditional implosion device like the kind used at Nagasaki is not in making a perfect sphere of uranium metal. That's relatively simple using modern CNC machine tools. The hard part is in machining close to 100 different blocks of explosive lenses, assembling them in a precise pattern around the uranium sphere, and then detonating all of them at exactly the same time so that the imploding shockwave compresses the sphere uniformly. A two-point design requires only two identical shaped charges surrounding the core and synchronizing only two detonators simultaneously. Almost all nuclear weapons in modern arsenals start with a two-point design because of their simplicity and efficiency.
It would be foolish to assume that Iran is "a long way" from a usable nuclear device. IMHO
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05-23-2026, 09:12 PM
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(05-23-2026, 10:33 AM)govshill2 Wrote: Hard to show proof
In other words, just another card in your pack of unverified lies. Your contribution to the thread so far is zero.
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(05-23-2026, 07:31 PM)EXETER Wrote: Actually, it would only take a matter of days to go from 60% to 90%, if they had some of their centrifuges still working, and they very well might. There is pretty good evidence that they moved most, if not all of their UF6 enriched to 60% from the Natanz and Fordow enrichment facilities to the Natanz facility BEFORE the Israeli and US attacks on those two facilities last year. Isfahan is the facility where the UF6 is converted into uranium metal. It also appears that the Isfahan site was not as damaged by the US bunker-buster strikes in June of 2025 as Trump and Hegseth have reported. People and vehicles have been seen coming and going from the tunnel entrances, for example. It's conceivable that Iran could already have converted some of their UF6 to 90% enriched metal at Isfahan.
Also, it looks to me like there are 2 or 3 pathways to a usable bomb for Iran without a long development time. The first, and least risky approach would be a simple gun-type device like the US used on Hiroshima in 1945. It was deployed operationally without a full scale test because the physicists at Los Alamos were convinced from their laboratory experiments that it would work with high confidence. So Iran could just do the same and have 15 kilotons per bomb without having to solve the implosion problem. They could also add a Lithium6-Duteride pellet to a gun-type device and get a mild amount of thermonuclear boost up to around maybe 50 kilotons with little additional risk. And finally, they could maybe try for a two-point implosion device without a full-scale test. The difficulty in making a traditional implosion device like the kind used at Nagasaki is not in making a perfect sphere of uranium metal. That's relatively simple using modern CNC machine tools. The hard part is in machining close to 100 different blocks of explosive lenses, assembling them in a precise pattern around the uranium sphere, and then detonating all of them at exactly the same time so that the imploding shockwave compresses the sphere uniformly. A two-point design requires only two identical shaped charges surrounding the core and synchronizing only two detonators simultaneously. Almost all nuclear weapons in modern arsenals start with a two-point design because of their simplicity and efficiency.
It would be foolish to assume that Iran is "a long way" from a usable nuclear device. IMHO
I enjoyed reading your post, as far as the assumption of how close Iran is to building their first bomb, only time will tell, because no ones really knows.
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(05-23-2026, 11:23 AM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: I thought we were encouraged to make meaningful replies of at least a couple of lines. Removing the like button encourages very many replies of very few words. This will make the threads longer, harder to read and artificially inflate post counts.
Is that what was planned by the change?
Edit: I also find it strange that we have drifted from current events to the point of being demotavited to starting threads. I thought of making a thread on the latest SpaceX starship flight but now no one is bothering with things like that. Then again, nether is it showing up on the news very much if at all.
Deny Ignorance has joined the Enshittification Bandwagon.
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