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(04-07-2026, 09:02 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: I well aware of the consequences, I'm all good with mutual assured destruction.
Well, as long as you are good with it eh.
I mean thats like saying you're fine with your house burning down because your neighbour's will too.
In that kind of scenario, nobody wins, and everyone dies...
Don't you imagine there has to be a better solution than nuclear war?
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(04-07-2026, 08:49 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: You can't nuke around the good ones that's not how it works, I'm alright with the loses and I'm okay with world being upset about it. I would rather we still nuke them now rather then do nothing and in the next 12 months they nuke us. I'm not interested in absorbing one first.
People state that as a matter of fact, yet they have other means to inflict harm on the whole world right now they’ve refrained from.
They could strike the Saudi Pipeline and also close the Red Sea passage. But they haven’t yet, and are likely only doing that if things escalate further.
The notion that they’re completely irrational and lack a sense of self preservation doesn’t hold up. We could still say they’re an oppressive dictatorship, but that doesn’t mean you can state as a matter of fact they were going to use a nuke on us in 12 months. I heard the same premise about Iraq and it turned out to be completely fabricated. Thousands of soldiers lost, trillions of dollars loaned with interest over a false premise.
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04-07-2026, 09:10 AM
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(04-07-2026, 09:02 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: I well aware of the consequences, I'm all good with mutual assured destruction.
People don't get it.
Some generations eat MAD for breakfast and ask for seconds.
I know my parents did, and my grandparents, well, they were the greatest gen for multiple reasons.
None of this is out of America's control; this scenario has been discussed and dissected in our service academies to the Pentagon for decades.
Been saying this whole time it can still go south, but so far better than expected.
If militarily/politically, they can nudge this in the right direction, the dominoes might begin to fall.
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But change is
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04-07-2026, 09:16 AM
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Fact is, the United States is a military industrial complex -- a warring nation
We spend trillions of dollars on building our military
it's our biggest budget
We have to go to war to get the return on our investment
Missiles have a shelf life
We were going to go to war with somebody no matter what
Iran simply got the short straw
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04-07-2026, 09:18 AM
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(04-07-2026, 09:04 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Garbage.
Having material isn't the same as having a weapon.
And it was not enriched to weapons-grade, as you are plainly aware.
Never mind the fact that Trump obitterated the stuff last June...
You're jumping from suspicion to justification for nuclear war.
That's not deterrence, that's escalation.
I'm not interested in waiting until they have the weapon that is to late by my standards it must never be allowed to exist.
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(04-07-2026, 09:16 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Fact is, the United States is a military industrial complex -- a warring nation
We spend trillions of dollars on building our military
it's our biggest budget
We have to go to war to get the return on our investment
Missiles have a shelf life
We were going to go to war with somebody no matter what
Iran simply got the short straw
I strongly suspect we will do with this century the same as we did with the last.
We simply refuse to learn from history and seem hell-bent on the repetition of past transgressions.
It is rather sad and pathetic, really, given the information age in which we now exist...
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(04-07-2026, 09:18 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: I'm not interested in waiting until they have the weapon that is to late by my standards it must never be allowed to exist.
Where in Iran do you think should be nuked?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(04-07-2026, 09:18 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: I'm not interested in waiting until they have the weapon that is to late by my standards it must never be allowed to exist.
Im not interested in nuclear war.
What makes you think you can stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons when you could not stop India or Pakistan?
As soon as Israel developed nuclear weapons, Iran was sure to follow suit.
And now it is guaranteed, given what transpired.
Nuking down Tehran simply won't stop them.
If anything, it will only serve to make the situation worse.
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(04-07-2026, 09:25 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Where in Iran do you think should be nuked?
I'll leave that up to Pete and the other professionals.
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(04-07-2026, 09:27 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Im not interested in nuclear war.
What makes you think you can stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons when you could not stop India or Pakistan?
As soon as Israel developed nuclear weapons, Iran was sure to follow suit.
And now it is guaranteed, given what transpired.
Nuking down Tehran simply won't stop them.
If anything, it will only serve to make the situation worse.
They should nuke more than Tehran, the other 2 probably should have been nuked too.
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