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Trump says he bombed Iran
(04-03-2026, 02:29 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: You might not listen to Trump

But the rest of the world does


Because they have a crush on him, the amount of attention they give him is the same as lovers.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(04-03-2026, 02:15 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Brother, you’re the one that keeps on bringing that up and virtue signaling that the rest of us don’t care because we’re critical of the war when that’s not even a stated objective.

You can’t accuse people of not caring about human rights when that’s not even why we’re there. 

Unfortunately Iran isn’t the only country with bad human rights.

But what makes it truly wild is we’ve said in no uncertain terms we’re willing to cut power to a desert country before the summer. No cooling, no water, hospitals buckle. So I don’t see how anything we’re doing is saving the people of Iran.

Make the case that their regime is a threat to the region and the world, I’d argue the latter. But this isn’t a humanitarian mission.

Not to mention, Trump explicitly stated regime change isn't a goal

Right after he tells the Iranian people to get ready to rise up

He's a liar and a con artist

Giving false hope to people who are already suffering 

Then you've got MAGA and Trump supporters saying, "fuck Iran, glass Iran, send them back to the Stone age"

No, this is NOT a humanitarian mission
(04-03-2026, 02:32 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Because they have a crush on him, the amount of attention they give him is the same as lovers.


So pay no attention to the President of the United States and leader of the free world?

Are you suggesting we treat him the way Biden was treated?
(04-03-2026, 02:33 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Not to mention, Trump explicitly stated regime change isn't a goal

Right after he tells the Iranian people to get ready to rise up

He's a liar and a con artist

Giving false hope to people who are already suffering 

Then you've got MAGA and Trump supporters saying, "fuck Iran, glass Iran, send them back to the Stone age"

No, this is NOT a humanitarian mission

So what?
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(04-03-2026, 02:35 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: So pay no attention to the President of the United States and leader of the free world?

Are you suggesting we treat him the way Biden was treated?

It's your choice.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(04-03-2026, 02:31 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: A desert country that existed before ac, running water and hospitals... The real problem is they are assholes and we don't want them around anymore, they want us dead and actively pursue that goal why wouldn't we smash them. I don't care if you don't like or agree with that but that is what is.

Government ≠ citizens

Iranians had a candlelight vigil in Tehran after 9/11.

Killing the citizens only makes future enemies. Just look at history.
(04-03-2026, 02:37 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Government ≠ citizens

Iranians had a candlelight vigil in Tehran after 9/11.

Killing the citizens only makes future enemies. Just look at history.

Doing nothing results in us getting nuked as well, so I rather do something than nothing.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(04-03-2026, 02:09 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The pilot was rescued 

"JUST IN - A second U.S. plane, an A-10 Warthog, was downed by Iran today near the Strait of Hormuz — NYT"

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/...-trump-oil

"The A-10 Warthog attack plane went down near the Strait of Hormuz about the same time that an Air Force F-15E was shot down over Iran, the officials said.   In that incident, one crew member was rescued and search-and-rescue operators are looking for the second airman. "

A-10s are going to take hits; they fly low and slow.

I'd have to see the number of A-10 sorties flown vs hits and damages vs targets destroyed.

10-11 days of sorties with only one shot down is an acceptable ratio

[quote]Pentagon and CENTCOM officials have confirmed A-10 involvement (e.g., Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine noted on March 19 that the "Warthog is now in the fight" hunting boats in the Strait), released supporting imagery (such as mid-air refueling), and shared videos/footage of strafing runs. However, they have not released specific A-10 sortie or strike counts for this operation.
Broader campaign updates focus on total sorties, targets hit (e.g., naval vessels destroyed), or overall progress rather than breakdowns by aircraft type. Detailed sortie data for individual platforms is often classified or withheld during active operations for operational security.[quote]
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(04-03-2026, 02:38 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Doing nothing results in us getting nuked as well, so I rather do something than nothing.

I thought we obliterated their nuclear program in June. It was set back years, remember?
(04-03-2026, 02:36 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: So what?


The clarification is in response to anyone still falsely claiming Trump's excursion is about liberating Iran

The only thing he wants to liberate is their oil

Just like Venezuela



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