Trump says he bombed Iran

[Mantiss2021]

Could someone  please tell me;

How many nuclear bombs, simple and crude, not necessarily clean and efficient, could be made from the supposedly 900lbs of "near weapons-grade" uranium Iran (again, supposedly) still has in its possession, once that stockpile is finally enriched to true weapons-grade?

Why?

Because now, if Iran were to detonate even one crude nuclear device, even as a test shot, even under a "cease-fire", it would change the entire tenor of this debacle.

Possibly in Iran's favor.

such an act would likely force the US and Israel to choose between two very difficult options:


Completely destroy All of Iran, up to and including the use of nuclear weapons, to ensure that absolutely no remnants of Iran's nuclear potential remains, essentially the strategy Israel has, and is employing in Gaza, but on a much larger scale (thus requiring the resources and participation of the US).

Or,

Accept that Iran now stands as a virtual equal, but opposite regional power to Israel, and must be negotiated with accordingly.


Not sure that there is a wise choice to be made in either case.

[andy06shake]

They need about 15–25 kg of weapons-grade uranium per crude bomb.

So theoretically, they could build about 10-13 simple devices.

[Oldcarpy2]

They need about 15–25 kg of weapons-grade uranium per crude bomb.

So theoretically, they could build about 10-13 simple devices.

Uranium is a heavy element.  So won't spread far.  But if delivery missiles are shot down, not good.

If they do a dirty bomb I'd imagine that Israel would respond with a proper nuke.

No expert, me.

But I don't think the US administration have a clue about any of this.

Clown shoes.

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Perspective. 

An interesting concept.

[putnam6]

By the looks of things the U.S. strikes have not destroyed Iran’s enriched uranium or permanently crippled its nuclear program.

Iran has effectively moved the key materials and retained hidden infrastructure.

Meaning the enriched uranium remains intact and could be redeployed once repair work is complete.

With analysts estimating the strikes set Iran's program back by a few months, not years.

If they were not working on a real bomb or nuclear device, i think it's a safe bet they will be now covertly.

Oh shit we bombed Iran into making a nuclear bomb

[andy06shake]

Uranium is a heavy element.  So won't spread far.  But if delivery missiles are shot down, not good.

If they do a dirty bomb I'd imagine that Israel would respond with a proper nuke.

No expert, me.

But I don't think the US administration have a clue about any of this.

Clown shoes.

It's all about critical mass, and 15–25 kg of weapons-grade uranium, combined with reflector and compression technology, gets them an implosion-type fission bomb.

With pretty much the same to similar yield as the Little Boy bomb dropped over Hiroshima.

I dont think the US administration has much of a clue about any of this either.

Then again, i think this was mainly all Trump trying to pick up the same kind of kudos as Israel for attacking Iran.

He says jump, they say how high, which is what happens when you put sycophants in the positions Trump has. 

Clown shoes indeed mate.

And dangerous ones at that.

[Mantiss2021]

I was not referring to a "dirty bomb" per se, meaning a conventional explosive device used to spread radiological material.

I was suggesting a very simple true nuclear weapon that could be assembled and deployed with a high degree of confidence, even though its conversion ratio of nuclear material (ie. enriched uranium) into explosive power is less than optimal, resulting in a large amount of radioactive fallout from the device itself; over and above irradiated debris from the target area.

Nor was I considering the use of missiles or other aircraft as delivery systems, as these are far too easy to interdict. Iran has other options available that we would be well to consider.


I feel a "Pandora's Box" might well have been opened, and can only pray that "Hope" still hides within.


ETA: 

Still haven't figured out how to "quote" on this board! Trying!

[Oldcarpy2]

I was not referring to a "dirty bomb" per se, meaning a conventional explosive device used to spread radiological material.

I was suggesting a very simple true nuclear weapon that could be assembled and deployed with a high degree of confidence, even though its conversion ratio of nuclear material (ie. enriched uranium) into explosive power is less than optimal, resulting in a large amount of radioactive fallout from the device itself; over and above irradiated debris from the target area.

Nor was I considering the use of missiles or other aircraft as delivery systems, as these are far too easy to interdict. Iran has other options available that we would be well to consider.


I feel a "Pandora's Box" might well have been opened, and can only pray that "Hope" still hides within.


ETA: 

Still haven't figured out how to "quote" on this board! Trying!

Wise words.

[andy06shake]

Oh shit we bombed Iran into making a nuclear bomb

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Who's this "we" sh@t, buddy? LoL
 
Trump did that.

It would be fecking hilarious if it weren’t so damn tragic.

It’s madness.

The fact is, if they weren’t planning on producing a working nuclear device (and I think we all know they were at some point), then they are now.
 
It’s like some kind of mad paradox of sorts.
 
But at the end of the day, the US couldn’t stop the likes of Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, or India from producing working nuclear bombs.
 
What chance do you really think they have of stopping Iran now, unless they’re willing to go in and cut the Iranian grass every few months or so?

Maybe thats the plan, a bad one, but are there any good ones left?................................

[sahgwa]

Let's be honest and concise here.

Iran has been a turn-key nuclear power for some time.  They just have not publicly bothered to put their material together for weapons, 1940's-grade or not.
With the USA and EU borders so disgustingly porous the last 10 years especially, chances are Iran already has nuclear bombs or missiles in both continents.
They just have not had anything to gain from using them.

I hope for once that we can undo the previous regime change from 80 years ago with a new one, and then maybe vindicate our meddling. 
Kind of like super-gluing the mug back together after you break the handle off. Better than nothing. 

And let's be super clear , no one started this current fiasco but Israel, 'preemptively' striking Iran for 'safety' 
Total newspeak nonsense.