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(03-30-2026, 07:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I doubt his reasons back then are the same as now, now he has the power to manipulate the stock markets at will to create more wealth for himself, his family and his pedo friends.
His reasons are exactly the same..... refer back to my post with the link to 1987.
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03-30-2026, 07:30 AM
This post was last modified: 03-30-2026, 07:46 AM by Kurokage. 
It looks like Spain has moved against Trump's war in Iran rather than just abstaining...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...48259.html
Quote:Spain closes airspace to US warplanes in further rebuke to Trump.Spain has closed its airspace to American aircraft involved in military operations against Iran.
This move marks a significant escalation beyond Madrid’s previous refusal to allow the use of jointly operated military bases.
Defence Minister Margarita Robles confirmed the move on Monday.
"We don't authorise either the use of military bases or the use of airspace for actions related to the war in Iran," she told reporters in Madrid.
Spanish newspaper El Pais had first reported the news on Monday, citing military sources.
The closure, which compels US military planes to reroute around the Nato member state on their way to targets in the Middle East, does not apply to emergency situations, El Pais added.
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
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03-30-2026, 07:33 AM
This post was last modified: 03-30-2026, 07:38 AM by quintessentone. 
(03-30-2026, 07:30 AM)Kurokage Wrote: It looks like Spain has moved against Trump's war in Iran
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...48259.html
" Yes, Spain explicitly considers the U.S.-Israeli war on Iran illegal. Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez and his government have repeatedly described the conflict as "absurd, cruel, and illegal," arguing it undermines international law and serves only the interests of a few."
" Madrid has taken concrete actions to distance itself from the war:- Closed Airspace: Spain has denied all flight plans involving operations in Iran, banning fighter jets and in-flight refueling aircraft from using its airspace or military bases in Rota and Morón.
- No Military Participation: Defense Minister Margarita Robles rejected U.S. demands to secure the Strait of Hormuz, stating Spain will not take part in any military mission because it views the war as illegal.
- Bases Denied: The government has blocked U.S. aircraft from using jointly operated bases for the offensive, though these bases continue to support other bilateral agreements like logistical support for troops in Europe.
The Spanish government contrasts this stance with the 2003 Iraq War, warning that the current conflict could lead to consequences "far worse" than the Iraq invasion. While Spain maintains its NATO commitments, it has refused to accept "stopgap measures" that do not prioritize ending the war immediately. "
https://english.aawsat.com/world/5251876...ait-hormuz
More countries need to take a stand like this on this illegal war per International Law.
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(03-30-2026, 07:24 AM)andy06shake Wrote: What happened to no new wars?
Strange election promise to make, if indeed, war with Iran was the plan...
Iran has always been the "jewel in the crown" as per Wesley Clarke's presentation after 9/11.
There's more to this in my view than just Iran and more about freeing up the Straits for world trade and putting pressure financially on Chiiiiina.... as per Venezuela.
China is a far bigger threat to world economics and peace than Russia is. Chiiiiina is the boogeyman.
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(03-30-2026, 07:30 AM)angelchemuel Wrote: His reasons are exactly the same..... refer back to my post with the link to 1987.
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Nope, still the same re: stock market manipulation attempts.
"This is what he was doing in 1987.
"Key business activities in 1987 included: - Stock Speculation: Trump engaged in "greenmail" tactics, buying significant blocks of stock in companies like United Airlines, Federated Department Stores, and MCA, then selling them for profit after publicly hinting at takeovers.
- Major Acquisitions: He purchased the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan for $407.5 million and a 282-foot superyacht (originally built for Adnan Khashoggi), renaming it the Trump Princess.
- Real Estate and Concessions: He secured a concession to operate the Lasker Rink in New York City and continued managing the Wollman Rink, while also attempting (unsuccessfully) to have Central Park's Wollman Rink renamed after him.
- International Interest: He received a letter from Yuri Dubinin, the Soviet ambassador, in January 1987 proposing a joint venture to build and manage a hotel in Moscow.
- Corporate Raiding: He spent $29 million on the yacht and made millions by briefly positioning himself as a takeover threat to companies like Hilton Hotels and Gillette, though he lost most of these gains later as investor confidence waned. " (LLM)
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(03-30-2026, 07:19 AM)quintessentone Wrote: People worldwide are protesting this war and the other wars that are ongoing. "What are you fighting for?" needs to be answered by soldiers fighting in all wars and stop sleepwalking, time for mutiny.
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(03-30-2026, 07:28 AM)angelchemuel Wrote: Well, it's full moon on Thursday, just as it was when they yoyked Maduro.
We have Easter weekend coming up, that is worrying me more with localised terror attacks from sleeper cells.... the Iranian's have been too quiet on that front given US/Israel launched their attack during Eid. Time for payback..... but I sincerely hope not.
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One of my best friends was at the Ariana Grande concert at Manchester Arena during the bombings, with two kids in tow.
Luckily, they were all ok.
My little cousin was standing outside Glasgow airport when the 2007 attack happened.
This is what they do Jane, I sincerely hope you are wrong also.
But I doubt it.
Put it this way, summer could be a rather dangerous affair.
And if I were in America, i don't think i would chance a World Cup game...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(03-30-2026, 07:35 AM)angelchemuel Wrote: Give your head a wobble please and thank you
The majority of the world and American citizens agree with me.
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(03-30-2026, 07:34 AM)angelchemuel Wrote: Iran has always been the "jewel in the crown" as per Wesley Clarke's presentation after 9/11.
There's more to this in my view than just Iran and more about freeing up the Straits for world trade and putting pressure financially on Chiiiiina.... as per Venezuela.
China is a far bigger threat to world economics and peace than Russia is. Chiiiiina is the boogeyman.
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China is the boogeyman, i agree.
But so far, they are not the ones in the wrong postcode...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(03-30-2026, 07:39 AM)andy06shake Wrote: China is the boogeyman, i agree.
But so far, they are not the ones in the wrong postcode...
China is the boogeyman only in their success at surpassing USA in world economic hegemony in some areas.
This war is cramping their economic growth, so they just may end up becoming the intervening factor that may be able to mediate so as to stop this war.
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