Trump says he bombed Iran

[WallFlowerActive]

See what happens when a country like N. Korea has nuclear weapons capabilities. Trump wants to keep talking, not start bombing. Follow the money.

"U.S. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard warned lawmakers in March that North Korea is "probably prepared" to conduct a seventh nuclear test on short notice.
 Members of President Donald Trump's team have reportedly discussed reopening dialogue with Kim, according to sources familiar with the discussions. During his first term, Trump met with Kim on three occasions in a failed bid to persuade the North Korean leader to walk back his nuclear weapons program."

Kim Jong Un Quietly Advances North Korea's Nuclear Program - Newsweek

Again.  What proxy wars is North Korea fighting?  Is North Korea actively attacking shipping lanes?  What military action is there to take against NK to what end?

[xuenchen]

Finally we find a site that's fully trustworthy and accountable for honest reporting!!

Complete and unbiased honest reporting about The Middle East

[putnam6]

[vonclod]

It appears it was not diminished, nor will it ever be.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9YF7pld_ec&list=WL]

No, they just delayed it at best, probably increased their resolve to actually do it rather than just talk.

[Ignorant]

The need for America to get involved here escapes me.

[vonclod]

What would they have leaked? That we were going to strike them?

Weren't we signaling that for the past week, as well as moving B2's and other assets into position?

Not like it was much of a secret.

Seeing as it appears they likely moved those materials, it was somewhat expected, worst kept secret ever.

[EXETER]

Go figure ..........
 Iran’s Fordow nuclear site did not suffer any serious damage in the attack launched by the US, Fars news agency reported on Sunday, citing MP Mohammad Manan Raisi from Qom Province where the facility is located.
US President Donald Trump has claimed that the Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated” in the American strikes overnight.
Raisi told the agency that “contrary to the claims of the lying US president, the Fordow nuclear facility has not been seriously damaged, and most of what was damaged was only on the ground level and can be restored.”

I think his statement is just propaganda.  

I had been wondering for years how effective these GBU-57s were going to be, if they ever had to be used. The problem as I saw it is that any ground penetrating munition has a limited range it can bury itself underground before it comes to a complete stop.  The GBU-57 penetration depth has been estimated at 200 feet.  Typically, ground penetrating munitions are designed against an assumed high-strength concrete barrier (6,000 PSI concrete). If they can get through that, they can get through most naturally occurring rocks and soil. So what happens if the target is deeper than 200 feet + the blast radius of the explosive?  

The before and after satellite photos of Fordow show us how that problem is solved.  Notice that there were two aim points on the mountain overlying the centrifuge hall.  Each aim point got three GBU-57s targeted on it. Each GBU-57 left an entry hole not much bigger in diameter than the bomb itself and they all seemed to hit within a circle of maybe 10 meters diameter.  There was no surface cratering.  

So the first bomb went down to its expected depth (let's say 200 ft.), exploded, and expended all of its energy underground. That would have created a spherical volume of shattered rock (a "rubble bubble"), centered around a point 200 ft. below ground. I don't know exactly how big in diameter that rubble bubble would be, but it would be less than 200 ft., otherwise it would have excavated a crater at the surface. Guesstimating about 100 ft. or so.  The first penetrator coming down would also leave a channel of shattered rock in its wake, leading down to the rubble bubble.  That means that the second penetrator coming down at the same aim point would now be travelling through rubble instead of solid rock. So it would go deeper before exploding, creating a rubble bubble even deeper.  The third penetrator would go still deeper, and so on.  

If you look at the before photos of the entire site, you can see that there were 6 roads leading into reinforced concrete portals into the mountain. If you look at the after photos, you can see that at least two of them have been closed off by collapse and burial under soil and rock.  But there are no surface bomb craters associated with those tunnel portals.  My theory is that those portals were destroyed by blasts coming from the inside of the mountain outward, collapsing the tunnels as they went and closing off the entry ways.  That implies that at least some of the blasts from the GBU-57s went off in the centrifuge hall.  

That's my theory, anyway.

[Mantiss2021]

Per "Washington Post", VP Vance has "signaled that Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium is intact and in Iranian control".

The report goes on to say that Iran is believed to have enough near weapons-grade enriched uranium for "around ten nuclear weapons".

But Vance claimed that Iran no longer (no longer?) has the capability to turn their stockpile into weapons-grade uranium.

So relieved? /sarc.

[putnam6]

Seeing as it appears they likely moved those materials, it was somewhat expected, worst kept secret ever.

It depends on whether they lost the centrifuges. They don't have weapons-grade uranium now.

What are they going to do, fly it to Russia?


https://x.com/i/grok/share/MqKyNfibSaOJDVLiRhz7LOkxh

Delaying Iran's nuclear weapons program depends on the specific impacts of losing infrastructure versus losing uranium, and both have significant but distinct effects based on available information.
Losing Infrastructure: Iran's nuclear program relies heavily on facilities like Natanz, Fordow, and Isfahan for uranium enrichment, conversion, and weaponization research. Infrastructure, particularly centrifuges at Natanz and Fordow, is critical for enriching uranium to weapons-grade levels (90% purity). Recent Israeli strikes, for instance, reportedly destroyed the above-ground Pilot Fuel Enrichment Plant at Natanz and damaged centrifuge production sites, likely disrupting Iran's ability to enrich uranium efficiently. The electrical infrastructure damage at Natanz may have also harmed underground centrifuges, which are difficult and time-consuming to replace due to their specialized nature and Iran's reliance on domestic production after international sanctions limited foreign supply. Rebuilding facilities and replacing thousands of centrifuges could take months to years, especially if skilled scientists were also targeted, as reported with the deaths of nuclear experts. However, Iran may have spare centrifuges or undisclosed facilities, and Fordow’s deeply buried site makes it resilient to conventional attacks, potentially allowing enrichment to continue.
Losing Uranium: Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium, estimated at 9,250 kg as of May 2025, includes over 400 kg enriched to 60%, enough for approximately 6–10 crude nuclear weapons if further enriched to 90%. Losing this stockpile would be a significant setback, as producing highly enriched uranium is a time-intensive process requiring operational centrifuges and conversion facilities. For example, Iran’s uranium conversion facility at Isfahan, which produces uranium hexafluoride (the feedstock for enrichment), was damaged in recent strikes, potentially limiting future production if not repaired. However, if Iran has moved its enriched uranium to secret locations, as suggested by some reports, it could retain this material despite infrastructure losses. Additionally, Iran has domestic uranium sources like the Saghand and Gchine mines, meaning it could eventually replenish uranium stocks, though this would take time due to mining and conversion constraints.
Comparison and Impact: Losing infrastructure likely delays Iran’s program more in the short term because enrichment facilities and centrifuges are complex, costly, and time-consuming to rebuild, especially under sanctions and with reduced expertise from scientist assassinations. Without operational centrifuges, Iran cannot enrich its existing uranium to weapons-grade levels, rendering even a large stockpile less immediately usable. However, if Iran retains its enriched uranium stockpile (particularly the 60% enriched portion), it could quickly resume enrichment once infrastructure is restored or if it has hidden facilities. Conversely, losing uranium would force Iran to restart the enrichment process, but with intact infrastructure, this could be achieved relatively faster, especially since 60% to 90% enrichment is a short step (estimated at 5–6 days for one bomb’s worth). The critical factor is that infrastructure damage disrupts both current and future enrichment capacity, while uranium loss is a finite setback that Iran could overcome with time and existing mines.
Conclusion: Losing infrastructure, particularly enrichment facilities and centrifuge production, likely delays Iran’s nuclear weapons program more significantly in the near term due to the difficulty of rebuilding specialized equipment and the loss of key personnel. However, if Iran has safeguarded its enriched uranium or maintains hidden facilities like Fordow, it could mitigate some delays once infrastructure is restored. Long-term delays would be greater if both infrastructure and uranium were lost, but infrastructure remains the more critical bottleneck based on current evidence.
Note: The situation is fluid, and uncertainties remain about the extent of damage and Iran’s undisclosed capabilities. IAEA inspections, currently limited, are crucial for assessing the true impact.

[Oldcarpy2]

Per "Washington Post", VP Vance has "signaled that Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium is intact and in Iranian control".

The report goes on to say that Iran is believed to have enough near weapons-grade enriched uranium for "around ten nuclear weapons".

But Vance claimed that Iran no longer (no longer?) has the capability to turn their stockpile into weapons-grade uranium.

So relieved? /sarc.

Not "obliterated" then?

Why do I not believe a word that comes out of Trumps puckered little rat like mouth?

Must be my TDS, apparently....