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Plane collision with Blackhawk helicopter Washington DC - Political Debate
#31
(04-29-2025, 11:05 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Sorry I don't mean to pester you about this and I believe you when you say the audio and transcripts are released and google even confirms that but it stops short at providing a link to them, do happen to have one? I used this as my search in google:
dc helicopter crash audio and transcript of the CSMU

I found some ATC snippets but mostly of them seeing the collision and normally I would just move on but find it kind of strange that i'm not getting actual links from google even the AI thing at the top states audio is available but fail to provide the link and on the other facts it's siting it's mostly using the article you said was no good and there is a pay wall so I can't read that either.

Edit:
I wish I had a screen captured my last searches AI results because they have now changed with the same search prompt, is there a coverup in progress?

"While the specific audio and transcript of the CSMU are not public, the investigation into the crash is ongoing, and details may be released in the future. Investigators are working to determine the exact cause of the collision, and the information gathered during the investigation may shed light on the communication between the Black Hawk pilot and air traffic control." (Search Labs | AI Overview)

They quote parts of the data recorders in the preliminary report, but I don’t have the transcript they released anymore. I didn’t save the links when I came across them unfortunately. The full transcript will be released with the final report but I’ll keep looking for the one that was released.
#32
(04-29-2025, 01:06 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: They quote parts of the data recorders in the preliminary report, but I don’t have the transcript they released anymore. I didn’t save the links when I came across them unfortunately. The full transcript will be released with the final report but I’ll keep looking for the one that was released.

Thanks, I'll keep looking as well. I do have the NTSB March 2025 report to look through, maybe it's quoted in there.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
#33
(04-29-2025, 07:05 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: So then she should have turned left.... 
To "believe" fundamentally means to accept something as true or real, often without absolute proof or certainty. It can involve trusting in the truth of a statement, having faith in something, or holding an opinion as probable.

Not to be argumentative, but the relationship here has bearing...

He was an instructor... "leading" information is part of the alchemy of teaching..

He may have instinctively known that it was a necessary maneuver, or expected at least...

But such speculation always leads to 'fault'... it may have been incidental to training...

This was a tragic example of the burdens that fall to a pilot... imagine teaching them...
#34
I think it was a perfect storm of events, that lead to this tragic event. I would like to hear the way it was said the tone could change my opinion...
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman



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