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(03-17-2025, 04:58 PM)putnam6 Wrote: So who is pushing this button you make it sound as if nothing happens organically anymore.

Not saying there aren't those who will take advantage of any situation, thats completely different than making it happen. I just feel like certain groups operate in certain orbits, if that makes sense.

I think rather than look at it like governments, diplomats, and politicians are making the ultimate decisions, you have to look at it like it's a class thing.
There is that huge revolving door between corporate life and civil service life and at the top of the pyramid are these non governmental organisations like UN, WHO, WEF, etc  alongside corporations. 
Its mafia factions whose cover and dayjob is a politician, a CEO or a bureaucrat.  But those people we see are just doing the bidding of their organisations as a whole. 

I think it is fairly lawless and aimless, and that it is rich fuckers vs rich fuckers.   The only real aim is more control and screwing over of the little guy, and more money and power for the people at the top. 

If it was really about nation states, then the Presidents or Prime Ministers would not all be following the same NGO and corporate guidelines, like with COVID.  The current push is the Climate grift, in order to get everyone on a China-like control grid.

It's not organic-  in the sense that voting does not matter, and your political party or nation do not matter.
What matters is how much money you have, and how much dirt you have on your 'colleagues.'
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(03-17-2025, 11:51 AM)sahgwa Wrote: Perhaps you view it as 'making America less relevant' (this is ironic because many foreigners have spent decades complaining about America intervening and being imperialist), but I know the average conservative American views it as getting America back on track domestically, and reigning in our wasteful spending and our own meddling and corruption overseas.  

I also think that the USA has been meddling in other countries affairs a bit too much. Like all those 'peacekeeping' actions in nations where the oil is, but they apparently can't be bothered to extend their efforts to poor sub-Saharan countries in the same predicaments (it does look like the US Forces are only protecting their access to the stuff they want, and they don't give a damn about the rights and freedoms of anyone other than themselves).

But interference can also include messing with the free trade of other economies. If the US tries to shore up its own economy by driving others into starvation and deprivation, then that will have similar effect on those other populations as, say, the most evilly motivated of military attacks.

Quote: Most of my battle buddies I talk to agree we should be done 'peacekeeping' in other's affairs, after seeing our friends die for nothing. 

For nothing? I assure you, they threw away their lives so someone they never knew could get very rich.

Quote:Most of my coworkers agree we need to pay less taxes and fund less federal crap.

Over and over again you get idiots who think that they are cleverer than everyone who went before them, and they try and reset everything, being the 'new broom' and 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'. This completely breaks everything and invariably costs more than just trying to incrementally introduce small and measurable improvements would have been.

Currently, the US administration is run by people with the vocabulary slightly above that of a potato, an indicator that most of them are dumber than the average American. Elon of course is the odd one out, but he is really, IMHO, just 'gaming the system' because of the imminent failures of his Tesla companies will lead to massive liability issues.

Quote:People always complain about costs of goods at all times, but I know no one at work that has stopped feeding themselves, or stopped buying pricey things they don't need, like restaurant food vs home, and musical instruments vs gas bills.  Things are rolling along just fine.  I think the media does a great job altering people's perceptions to the inaccurate, outside of the country.

It's always a joy talking to my inlaws in Europe who think we are all suddenly cave people killing each other for corn kernels while lynching black people, based on the European news cycle.

It's high fructose corn syrup, not corn kernels. The kernels have nutritional value that would give them real world (as opposed to clown world) value.

LOL Tongue

But, can you explain how Trump's inserting himself into alleged peacekeeping efforts in un-allied overseas military conflicts is 'attending to things at home'?

And you don't seem to understand how economic collapse occurs whenever people just 'let things happen' without intelligent attempts at keeping things under control, because there are chaotic elements in most economic systems that will lead to total instability at times.
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(03-17-2025, 11:52 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I don't think it's dementia.   I think it's out of control ego, clinical narcissism, entitlement, basic ass-holery (yes I made that word up but it fits)  ... a few other things.

Trump doesn't have short term memory loss, loss of words, he multitasks just fine, no withdrawl from social situations (he CRAVES the social situations and spotlight), obviously no depression or confusion.  He's missing a lot of the key warning signs of dementia.  So IMHO  no dementia.  What you see is 'all him'.   (but I'm not a doctor and I don't have access to him on a daily basis so I could be wrong)

Both Trump and Biden have shown clear symptoms of dementia.

Dementia usually begins with episodic loss of rationality. Most of the time people with early onset dementia are all good, except for the times they 'loose it'.

A classic example was Trump's repeated inability to say "origins", where he instead says "oranges', over and over again, and you can see he realizes that something is wrong, but is unable to use the correct word for some time until his fugue is over (there are numerous videos of this).

Also, people with dementia develop ways of covering their momentary confusion, using tricks like Trump's 'accordion hands' movements, inappropriate and extended stunted 'dancing' moves and other wordless gaffing-about.
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(03-17-2025, 04:02 PM)sahgwa Wrote:  EU keeps buying Russian oil and is talking about raiding EU citizens savings accounts. Cuz 'Ukraine' rofl

There ya go.   
Exactly.
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(03-17-2025, 11:57 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Yep .... most of America is actually Libertarian these days ... but they just are so busy cheerleading for their (D) or ® that they don't realize that they've crossed over to Libertarian in what they want.

We are over taxed and a whole lot of it is going to waste, fraud and abuse.   

The cuts .. so far .. are spectacular.  Excellent.  Over due.  

But Trump haters are so intoxicated with the hate that they refuse to acknowledge that our tax money should be going to help hungry American children or to help homeless elderly Americans, rather than pay billions in waste and government bloat.

How does your tax money go towards the hungry American children or the homeless elderly if the departments that did that are the very first ones to be cut?

All DOGE (coin) will do is to shuffle more public money into the pockets of the few mega rich, with less going to the needy. Do you honestly think you will actually be taxed less because the government is no longer putting your tax money to good use? They will announce magnificent savings, but will then just tax you the same as they always have.

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(03-18-2025, 04:51 AM)chr0naut Wrote: How does your tax money go towards the hungry American children or the homeless elderly if the departments that did that are the very first ones to be cut?

The fat is cut.
The duties are still being fulfilled.
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Just listening to J.D. Vance spew out word salads and more promises that will come down the pipe, in the future, without any transparency or evidence. The con job continues with him complimenting the American people, which always works with those that are easily led with their egos being stroked. Good luck everyone, you will need it.
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(03-18-2025, 10:23 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Just listening to J.D. Vance spew out word salads and more promises that will come down the pipe, in the future, without any transparency or evidence. The con job continues with him complimenting the American people, which always works with those that are easily led with their egos being stroked. Good luck everyone, you will need it.

Dont ever forget it was the ineptitude of the left that led to the rise or Trumperism, the DNC candidates were so awful (Harris)or scorned(Hilliary) it made the majority of America collectively say FTN

The DNC the left the progressives had every advantage and still loss twice and allowed OMB to be President twice in non consecutive terms which is rare AF in itself.
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(03-18-2025, 10:33 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Dont ever forget it was the ineptitude of the left that led to the rise or Trumperism, the DNC candidates were so awful (Harris)or scorned(Hilliary) it made the majority of America collectively say FTN

The DNC the left the progressives had every advantage and still loss twice and allowed OMB to be President twice in non consecutive terms which is rare AF in itself.

The ineptitude flip flops between parties, is what I see. Again, good luck you all will need it.
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