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(03-05-2025, 02:19 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Hope they "win" but Im so glad the US isn't part of this anymore
Just more pain for Ukraine, its going to get brutal before it gets better
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Where does it say that?
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03-05-2025, 02:56 PM
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(03-05-2025, 02:25 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Where does it say that?
How do you say you didn't watch or understand the video without saying you didn't watch or understand the video?
here's the other view for perspective and all...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/189...1455456263
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03-05-2025, 03:41 PM
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(03-05-2025, 02:56 PM)putnam6 Wrote: How do you say you didn't watch or understand the video without saying you didn't watch or understand the video?
here's the other view for perspective and all...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/189...1455456263
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“We love you Mr President” Huge Chants of - “We love Trump, We love Trump, we live Trump” Forget standing with Ukraine - The British people stand with Donald Trump & America all day long My goodness.
Here a UK poll of Trump's popularity about Ukraine:
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/sur...04/bd0fa/2
This is just delusional ? ? ?
65% of Brits say Trump is doing "very badly".
That video is from 2018.
FFS?
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03-05-2025, 04:49 PM
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(03-05-2025, 03:41 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: My goodness.
Here a UK poll of Trump's popularity about Ukraine:
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/sur...04/bd0fa/2
This is just delusional ? ? ?
65% of Brits say Trump is doing "very badly".
That video is from 2018.
A poll FFS?
You pull a poll out of your bum thats from YouGov surveyed 5000 people and pretend it represents the attitudes of 67 million people and
I'm delusional
are we supposed to believe the massive 100,000 plus pro-Trumpers in 2018 have all flip-flopped thier opinions, no wonder you love Zelensky
Regardless sounds as if the EU/UK has enough countries and Zelensky and Starmer are willing to continue running the meat grinder in eastern Ukraine for the moment.
only time will tell if Ukraine gets its land back and how many lives it will cost in the effort
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Here's a couple of other YouGov polls, FFS indeed
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03-05-2025, 05:01 PM
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(03-05-2025, 04:49 PM)putnam6 Wrote: [Image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GlQPpYNXcAAH...ame=medium]
Only 20% of the respondents in that poll identify as Democrats.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/do...250304.pdf
How to lie with statistics.... nice one CBS. Weighing R: D at 5:2. Sheesh.
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(03-05-2025, 05:01 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Only 20% of the respondents in that poll identify as Democrats.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/do...250304.pdf
How to lie with statistics.... nice one CBS. Weighing R at 5:2. Sheesh.
Don't get me started about polls they are less than meaningless even more so in the UK where people are getting arrested for POSTING on social media bad thoughts about the government FFS how mental is that?
wore this out during the election and even it is a conservative estimate
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(03-04-2025, 09:01 AM)pianopraze Wrote: Not going to defend Trump, but Biden undid what Trump had done to lower prescriptions.
none of that germain for this discussion.
i’m just glad trump is pulling us out of this Ukrain cragmire, if Europe wants to fund it let them.
looks like a huge money laundry operation draining billions from the USA to me.
so I say get the heck out of Ukrain, stop all money.
we are no longer in place to bankroll the world we are fing bankrupt.
our stupidity allowing politicians to destroy us with debt is literally killing our country.
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But Trump allies could never admit that. Similarly, they could never admit that the economic problems at the start of Biden's term, were due to the actions and legislature introduced under Trump's first term (such as his mishandling of the pandemic), nor could they admit that despite the initial setbacks, Biden's term had spectacular growth, economically, compared to many other historical Presidential terms.
These things are a matter of record now, despite the way Trump continually paints himself as always being right. We know he is a felon, a tax cheat, a liar, and a bigot. It would not surprise me if he were later found to have trafficked and had had sex with minors.
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And on cue, it's New Zealand to the Commonwealth rescue! He takes the torch from the United Kingdom, and they are going around the loop, the same loop! will...they....reach....the.....finish line! Exciting times ahead at the 'Not My President But I'm Told to Care Races' !
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(03-05-2025, 05:38 PM)sahgwa Wrote: And on cue, it's New Zealand to the Commonwealth rescue! He takes the torch from the United Kingdom, and they are going around the loop, the same loop! will...they....reach....the.....finish line! Exciting times ahead at the 'Not My President But I'm Told to Care Races' !
I'm not expecting a particularly sophisticated understanding of the moral and ethical issues. I definitely don't think that Trump and co. have any idea of the moral implication that a sovereign democratic nation has been attacked without provocation. All they think about is what they can get out of it.
Hell, the American public elected a convicted felon to the Presidency (talk about disrespect to the White House and founding principals of the country)!
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