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Trump 'authorizing Full Force, if necessary' as military deploys to another US city
(10-09-2025, 08:50 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: There’s no evidence to suggest they are needed. They haven’t done anything.

Nothing happening now is unprecedented. There aren’t large scale out of control riots as suggested. Yes, in cases people are going past protesting and committing crimes they should be accountable for. That happens every where, every day. We have mechanisms to protect broader societal rights, and also address those problems.

But what we see is a deployment of troops on our soil, executive orders in direct conflict with Supreme Court decisions on free speech, and the humoring of adjusting or removing Habeas Corpus or applying the insurrection act.

Regardless of how you feel about this situation, the criminals involved… there’s no denying there will be long standing implications.

One day, some one else will be in power with the same tools at their disposal.

We have to worry about putting out fires today, now, or we might not have your one day 

...before worrying about the next President who seemingly can have every action banned by any district Judge in the land.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(10-09-2025, 09:12 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: What do you say to those ICE agents in Chicago that are now under open season due to the mayor ordering police not to help the ICE agents that are being assaulted? 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-chic...usting-act

I thought you said no ICE agents had been killed?? How is that 'open season'??



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-09-2025, 09:15 AM)putnam6 Wrote: We have to worry about putting out fires today, now, or we might not have your one day 

...before worrying about the next President who seemingly can have every action banned by any district Judge in the land.

Thats not how this works. Today dictates tomorrow.

Should a president be able to make executive orders going against SCOTUS rulings on the constitution? Can a president make laws with executive orders. Does the president get to decide the status of Habeas Corpus. Is it concerning all of that is in the same context of military being deployed to states against governors wishes?

These are legal questions, not political ones.
A Chicagoan perspective....

https://x.com/TheEXECUTlONER_/status/197...6264510626
 
Quote:·14h

Danielle Carter Walters at the Housing and Real Estate Committee meeting in Chicago, Illinois.

She was on fire. What a beast!

They messed with the wrong woman.

“You…..had the nerve to come in here and tell us about some rules when we’re in the Constitution.

This is our country!

And you want to tell us about some rules on a piece of paper when we have the law of the land on our side.

I told you, the Americans, the Chicagoans, the real citizens… we saw a common threat,..you all, the Democratic Party and you foreigners, and I told you we was gonna’ rise up.

And you all laughed and it was all fun and games. Now look at y’all. Now you got the President listening,……. everything President Trump has done so far we afford….

The only thing we are asking now that he hasn’t done yet, and we know he is, is to bring the FBI, the DOJ, Operation Gray Lord for these Judges, all of you all, that’s the last thing and we know he’s listening, that the last thing, that’s the chess move right there,….its chess baby, because all y’all are going to jail….you been stealing for a long time.

Brandon Johnson, oh, it’s over for the Democratic Party. Y’all done! We’re about to rise up, take our city back….” You tell them Dani! Don’t lecture us about rules when they (Democrats) are the ones protecting illegal aliens.

Send in the National Guard President Trump! That’s a a fired up, true blooded American Patriot right there

https://x.com/Sadie_NC/status/1975705269020622957

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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(10-09-2025, 09:16 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I thought you said no ICE agents had been killed?? How is that 'open season'??

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Really, that's all you got out of my reply? Not the fact that the mayor of Chicago is telling the people of his city they can attack ICE agents without worrying about being arrested by Chicago PD? You are worried about my use of a common phrase, without you actually looking up what it means? 
Quote:Open Season; a period when all restrictions on a particular activity or product are abandoned or ignored.
(10-09-2025, 09:16 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I thought you said no ICE agents had been killed?? How is that 'open season'??

Not for lack of trying.
(10-09-2025, 09:24 AM)putnam6 Wrote: A Chicagoan perspective....

https://x.com/TheEXECUTlONER_/status/197...6264510626
 

https://x.com/Sadie_NC/status/1975705269020622957

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There was due process. The governor ordered it. The reasoning was that Martha's Vineyard isn't the kind of place that has homeless shelters. But they do.
(10-09-2025, 09:27 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Really, that's all you got out of my reply? Not the fact that the mayor of Chicago is telling the people of his city they can attack ICE agents without worrying about being arrested by Chicago PD? You are worried about my use of a common phrase, without you actually looking up what it means? 

Considering that if you actually read the article it states...
Quote:Chicago police officers were ordered by their chief of patrol not to respond after Border Patrol agents called for help, saying they were boxed in and surrounded following a ramming incident outside Chicago

Nothing there about an actual attack happening. And as the Police in Portland have stated, ICE have falsely called them out to a few none events, wasting police time and resources.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-09-2025, 09:39 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: There was due process. The governor ordered it. The reasoning was that Martha's Vineyard isn't the kind of place that has homeless shelters. But they do.

Did each individual MV immigrant go before a judge BEFORE the governor removed them? 

no different from the left wanting each undocumented removal to be adjudicated... like 
Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia  
 
Quote:Due process is a legal principle ensuring fair treatment under the law, requiring that individuals receive notice, a hearing, and an impartial decision before being deprived of life, liberty, or property. It’s rooted in the U.S. Constitution (5th and 14th Amendments) and includes:
  • Procedural Due Process: Fair procedures, like a right to a hearing, legal representation, and an unbiased judge, before government action (e.g., criminal trials or property seizures).
  • Substantive Due Process: Protection against arbitrary or unreasonable laws that infringe on fundamental rights (e.g., privacy or free speech).
It applies to government actions, not private entities, and balances individual rights with public interest. Examples include fair trials, appeals, and administrative hearings.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(10-09-2025, 09:59 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Considering that if you actually read the article it states...

Nothing there about an actual attack happening. And as the Police in Portland have stated, ICE have falsely called them out to a few none events, wasting police time and resources.


That is still telling his officers not to aid ICE.....not sure why you're not understanding that. That is setting the precedence that police would not be likely to show up to any future incidents involving those agents. 


Did you not see the shooting at and of ICE detainees and agents in Dallas? Are you blind to reality or just choosing to only see what you want so you can denounce what is actually happening?



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