Trump 'authorizing Full Force, if necessary' as military deploys to another US city

[Bush Master]

Those city officials should be arrested.

Make an example out of these Liberal loons.

McCarthy was right.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-proc...ecency.htm

Wisconsin Republican senator Joseph R. McCarthy rocketed to public attention in 1950 with his allegations that hundreds of Communists had infiltrated the State Department and other federal agencies. These charges struck a particularly responsive note at a time of deepening national anxiety about the spread of world communism.
McCarthy relentlessly continued his anticommunist campaign into 1953, when he gained a new platform as chairman of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He quickly put his imprint on that subcommittee, shifting its focus from investigating fraud and waste in the executive branch to hunting for Communists. He conducted scores of hearings, calling hundreds of witnesses in both public and closed sessions.
 McCarthy and his chief counsel Roy Cohn largely ran the show by themselves, relentlessly grilling and insulting witnesses. Harvard law dean Ervin Griswold described McCarthy's role as "judge, jury, prosecutor, castigator, and press agent, all in one."

[Bush Master]

I think ....

UCMJ can mean a secret trial.

[UltraBudgie]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/dhs-says-ice-...s-escalate


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I'm still catching up.

No-response from CPD:



Was there an order not to assist?

[ANNEE]

To protect Federal Property Federal Trrops can be deployed to Protect Federal property ... These PEOPLE are STUPID ....   Local and State police have NO Jurisdiction regarding Federal Property ....

Think About IT

I have thought about it.

Over the years I've watched media videos of civilian upheaval against government crackdowns in foreign countries.

I'm sure you have too.

Do you root for the civilians or the government?

Don't come back with "that's different" -- it really isn't.

[Bush Master]

[FlyersFan]

Over the years I've watched media videos of civilian upheaval against government crackdowns in foreign countries.

This isn't a 'government crackdown'.
It's law enforcement enforcing the laws and arresting criminal illegals.
So your statement has nothing to do with what is happening in the USA with ICE.

[CriticalStinker]

Sorry - but nutcases who take protests beyond the law SHOULD face consequences all the way up to lethal force depending on how far beyond peaceful protest they want to take it.

That is not authoritarian - that is civil society.

You seem to have just got comfortable with a false notion that people can break the law when protesting.  I applaud the use of force against citizens who do not understand they are not allowed to act violently when protesting.

Its not complicated to understand at all - ICE's job is to remove illegal aliens and there is no constitutional authority for any state or city to call themselves a 'sanctuary' and override federal law.
People need to accept that and stop trying to interfere with a lawful process of removing illegals from the country.

I agree with many of those points.

ICE has a job to do, whether people like it or not, this is one of the major issues voted on. There is no question there is an illegal immigrant problem in the US, and it hurts both our country, and many of the immigrants who end up being exploited.

For people who violently interfere with that, I agree that's illegal and they should be arrested.

The issues I start to have is when people lose sight of how rights are supposed to be weighed. Individual>State>Federal. This is why the political compass is not just left and right. It is also authoritarian and libertarian.

Sadly, many who used to champion individual and state rights over federal, and trying to lessen the power of the federal government are happy to wield it now that they're in power. And while it may not be as alarming as many claim it is now with hyperbole, this is all a foundation.

The military is mainly just present. In most cases, they can't intervein due to posse comitatus. But, people are becoming desensitized to their mere presence, and it's becoming normal. I can appreciate the notion that in some places, crime is a large problem. There are cities I wouldn't go to. But I don't think federal military is the right tool for the mission. For one, our police is already a problem in some places. I think a lot of that is lack of training, and being underpaid. They don't know the laws they're supposed to enforce. Soldiers know far less than that, at best they get a couple weeks training.

The problem is, if these kinds of reactions become normalized, eventually someone will abuse them. That's just history of power, and people in power. The whole point of a lot of our constitution is to prevent that from even being a possibility, which is one of the reasons we have the 2nd amendment.

[DBCowboy]

This isn't a 'government crackdown'.
It's law enforcement enforcing the laws and arresting criminal illegals.
So your statement has nothing to do with what is happening in the USA with ICE.

It's funny that democrats will tell you that Obama and Biden deported more than Trump.

[matafuchyou]

If the 'people' of America wanted an uprising then they should go to DC and burn down the White House. They are attacking Federal Buildings. They are attacking people on the streets outside of the buildings. They are attacking cars. They are damaging property. Stopping traffic. 

How is any of this ok? A protest is a protest....not rioting. Get a permit and protest. 

Yesterday the left 'almost' got their martyr because that is what they are doing. Trying to get a martyr. 

If there are no laws...there is chaos.

[UltraBudgie]

If the 'people' of America wanted an uprising then they should go to DC and burn down the White House. They are attacking Federal Buildings. They are attacking people on the streets outside of the buildings. They are attacking cars. They are damaging property. Stopping traffic. 

How is any of this ok? A protest is a protest....not rioting. Get a permit and protest. 

Yesterday the left 'almost' got their martyr because that is what they are doing. Trying to get a martyr. 

If there are no laws...there is chaos.

"Blood alone moves the wheels of history!"

- Martin Luther, Benito Mussolini, Dwight Schrute