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(09-27-2025, 06:22 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Oh damn, you're in the thick of it. Pendleton would be a nice reprieve. I want to bail from AZ and get a homestead in Wyoming. 9th largest state with the lease people at 545,000. People suck!
Preaching some truth!
Amen!
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09-27-2025, 06:29 PM
This post was last modified: 09-27-2025, 06:33 PM by Rigel4. 
Under Trump , America has become the laughing stock of the World... However for me its more like a nervous laugh, as this dude is capable of anything.
You will get what you voted for... loss of all your freedoms, right and left.
https://www.ft.com/content/c7f511e7-7512...e11e21e110
There have been steady protests at a Portland ICE facility since the start of the summer which have led to some clashes between demonstrators and law enforcement. But Oregon officials have disputed the Trump administration’s depiction of a city out of control.
Oregon governor Tina Kotek said on Saturday: “There is no national security threat in Portland. Our communities are safe and calm.” Kotek said Trump told her “there are elements [in Portland] that create an insurrection”, and she asked him not to send troops.
Portland mayor Keith Wilson said that “the number of necessary troops is zero, in Portland and any other American city. Our nation has a long memory for acts of oppression, and the president will not find lawlessness or violence here unless he plans to perpetrate it.”
How can some of you defend this , its the same playbook you would find in North Korea or the Kremlin for god sake.
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(09-27-2025, 06:29 PM)Rigel4 Wrote: Under Trump , America has become the laughing stock of the World... However for me its more like a nervous laugh, as this dude is capable of anything.
You will get what you voted for... loss of all your rights right and left.
https://www.ft.com/content/c7f511e7-7512...e11e21e110
There have been steady protests at a Portland ICE facility since the start of the summer which have led to some clashes between demonstrators and law enforcement. But Oregon officials have disputed the Trump administration’s depiction of a city out of control.
Oregon governor Tina Kotek said on Saturday: “There is no national security threat in Portland. Our communities are safe and calm.” Kotek said Trump told her “there are elements [in Portland] that create an insurrection”, and she asked him not to send troops.
Portland mayor Keith Wilson said that “the number of necessary troops is zero, in Portland and any other American city. Our nation has a long memory for acts of oppression, and the president will not find lawlessness or violence here unless he plans to perpetrate it.”
How can some of you defend this , its the same playbook you would find in North Korea or the Kremlin for god sake.
The same morons that say there's no problem are the same morons that called 2020 "peaceful protests".
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(09-27-2025, 06:29 PM)Rigel4 Wrote: Under Trump , America has become the laughing stock of the World... However for me its more like a nervous laugh, as this dude is capable of anything.
You will get what you voted for... loss of all your freedoms, right and left.
Thats funny. But do us all a favor and stop projecting the European Union's current issues with the enforcement of law in America and purging out officials loyal to foreign governments, spy agencies, and drug cartels.
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(09-27-2025, 06:45 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: Thats funny. But do us all a favor and stop projecting the European Union's current issues with the enforcement of law in America and purging out officials loyal to foreign governments, spy agencies, and drug cartels.
I'll just leave this here :
https://www.ft.com/content/c7f511e7-7512...e11e21e110
Cas Mudde, University of Georgia "I feel like this needs to be said, as I don’t feel many Americans get this: THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!! No, not even for authoritarian leaders in nominally democratic regimes.
No, not even for authoritarian leaders in nominally democratic regimes. In Hungary, Poland, even Turkey , authoritarian leaders do/did not regularly send the military into its peaceful cities!"
Professor Mudde is one of the world's most established experts in the study of populism and political extremism.
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(09-27-2025, 06:55 PM)Rigel4 Wrote: I'll just leave this here :
https://www.ft.com/content/c7f511e7-7512...e11e21e110
Cas Mudde, University of Georgia "I feel like this needs to be said, as I don’t feel many Americans get this: THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!! No, not even for authoritarian leaders in nominally democratic regimes.
No, not even for authoritarian leaders in nominally democratic regimes. In Hungary, Poland, even Turkey , authoritarian leaders do/did not regularly send the military into its peaceful cities!"
Professor Mudde is one of the world's most established experts in the study of populism and political extremism.
Nice try, but this is not normal, this is not peaceful.
The communists are fighting and communists are saying, "We should accept the violence and death"
Nope.
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(09-27-2025, 06:55 PM)Rigel4 Wrote: I'll just leave this here :
https://www.ft.com/content/c7f511e7-7512...e11e21e110
Cas Mudde, University of Georgia "I feel like this needs to be said, as I don’t feel many Americans get this: THIS IS NOT NORMAL!!! No, not even for authoritarian leaders in nominally democratic regimes.
No, not even for authoritarian leaders in nominally democratic regimes. In Hungary, Poland, even Turkey , authoritarian leaders do/did not regularly send the military into its peaceful cities!"
Professor Mudde is one of the world's most established experts in the study of populism and political extremism.
Peaceful cities?
What a crock.
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09-27-2025, 07:10 PM
This post was last modified: 09-27-2025, 07:11 PM by UltraBudgie. 
(09-27-2025, 05:33 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Well yes of course. You can read it in NSPM-7, here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...-violence/
The target is "groups and entities" perpetuating extremism indicated by "anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality." AKA "Antifa".
Just to make sure this isn't ignored, this is a major policy shift that the media isn't covering. This creates a new national strategy to “disrupt” any individual or groups “that foment political violence”, including “before they result in violent political acts.”
This is political pre-crime. Dissent may become violent, therefore it cannot be allowed.
It is an order from the President to the Justice Department, FBI, and national security agencies.
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(09-27-2025, 07:10 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Just to make sure this isn't ignored, this is a major policy shift that the media isn't covering. This creates a new national strategy to “disrupt” any individual or groups “that foment political violence”, including “before they result in violent political acts.”
This is political pre-crime. Dissent may become violent, therefore it cannot be allowed.
It is an order from the President to the Justice Department, FBI, and national security agencies.
Right of protest now a crime . Thoughts of Protest now a crime.
Thoughts of Crimes can bring the marines Hmm.. Normal this is not, it is proto fascism
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(09-27-2025, 07:10 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Just to make sure this isn't ignored, this is a major policy shift that the media isn't covering. This creates a new national strategy to “disrupt” any individual or groups “that foment political violence”, including “before they result in violent political acts.”
This is political pre-crime. Dissent may become violent, therefore it cannot be allowed.
Bullshit. Don't conflate political assassinations, attacks on law enforcement on policy or "pre-crime" bull.
The communists cannot control the narrative any longer.
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