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09-27-2025, 07:19 PM
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(09-27-2025, 07:16 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Bullshit. Don't conflate political assassinations, attacks on law enforcement on policy or "pre-crime" bull.
The communists cannot control the narrative any longer.
I see you didn't read the directive. The parts I quoted in quote marks are actual quotes. Believe it or not, it says what it says.
"Through this comprehensive strategy, law enforcement will disband and uproot networks, entities, and organizations that promote organized violence, violent intimidation, conspiracies against rights, and other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society."
Emphasis added. That's pretty broad, huh? Does it apply to boycotts? Or strikes?
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(09-27-2025, 06:55 PM)Rigel4 Wrote:
You can post that same link over and over again, but what is not normal is the city of Portland's refusal to enforce any kind of immigration law or even regular law. What was not normal was Seattle abandoning its municipal duties and allowing these same actors to create a violent free for all zone where people were murdered and raped out of some ignorant brainwashed belief in protesting police brutality.
What is not normal is ordering your city's law enforcement wing to ignore rioters screaming death threats and attacking with projectiles and blunt objects at law enforcement agents trying to enforce the law and remove pedophiles, murderers, rapists, and traffickers or anyone else who entered illegally. It is elected officials protecting crime, and those days are gone.
Good riddance. Its lucky I live in Florida where things are stable, our elected officials actually do the job in their description and do not shed tears and move heaven and Earth for violent criminals, pedos, and rapists.
I think the entire West Coast personally needs temporary military governance and absolute dismissal of all those officials who works for foreign interests and not those of American citizens. For some strange reason this would make China very angry, I wonder why that is?
I doubt my wish will come true, but then again the plan I wrote on ATS last year for dealing with these no sovereignty zones of Urban America before the election; that is like 80% in effect today. Interesting that ATS was erased like a month before all of this went into play. There are plans for rural America as well, but we have to focus first on the enemies of the USA within our Urban centers . Then we can focus on those small mountain towns also being held hostage by bike gangs and other drug traffickers.
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(09-27-2025, 07:19 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I see you didn't read the directive. The parts I quoted in quote marks are actual quotes. Believe it or not, it says what it says.
We should support, encourage (like the left) to overthrow the US Constitution?
WTF, over
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(09-27-2025, 07:19 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I see you didn't read the directive. The parts I quoted in quote marks are actual quotes. Believe it or not, it says what it says.
"Through this comprehensive strategy, law enforcement will disband and uproot networks, entities, and organizations that promote organized violence, violent intimidation, conspiracies against rights, and other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society."
Emphasis added. That's pretty broad, huh? Does it apply to boycotts? Or strikes? It is called standard police work. You know, infiltrate, learn their plans, play along and then bust them before they can commit their violent acts?? It is in every other episode of Law and order, but because the White House wants to stop crime orchestrated by organized and foreign financed groups, you call that pre-crime free speech suppression? The quote is very clear, infiltrate violent groups, and stop their violent plans before they can be executed.
This is different than standard undercover and anti-terror operations how?
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09-27-2025, 07:34 PM
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(09-27-2025, 07:29 PM)worldstarcountry Wrote: The quote is very clear, infiltrate violent groups, and stop their violent plans before they can be executed.
I see you have said the word "violent", and ignored the bit that also adds anything Trump considers "other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society". Never mind then, anything goes. Is "violence" the new race card? Just say you're trying to stop it, mention it up-front, and you can tack on any infringement of rights you want, without question?
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(09-27-2025, 07:34 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I see you have said the word "violent", and ignored the bit that also adds anything Trump considers "other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society". Never mind then, anything goes. Is "violence" the new race card? Just say you're trying to stop it, mention it up-front, and you can tack on any infringement of rights you want, without question?
Yeah, Charlie Kirk sure did get "disrupted" 2 weeks ago.
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Ok, provide what you believe to be an example of a non criminal act that would disrupt the functioning of a Democratic society. Because that is what concerns you. The qualifier in that sentence is the word AND , not OR.
All those violence things, AND other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society. I suppose you believe now that a bunch of Marines are going to every No Kings protest (funded by European King money) and just rounding up all the geriatrics with signs?? Is this what you are attempting to insinuate??
Are you conveniently or intentionally forgetting that peaceful protests are part of the functioning of a Democratic society??
Now in your defense, I believe you did not think about it as deeply as that, and are sincerely concerned with a avalanche snowball effect. But legally, that wording is quite clear and peaceful protests, which are a function of a stable democratic society, are not under the purview of that memo. It is violent acts, and maybe something like showing up in a pickup with a bunch of riot rated face masks for combating legitimate law enforcement efforts to reign in a riot?? I suspect that would be a prime example which has already played itself out earlier this year.
It is one thing for individuals to have their own riot gear, and another for some third party who shows up to outfit an entire cell of violent agitators fighting against law enforcement.
Hopefully you have a better understanding on how one word controls the meaning of a statement and not understanding it sends you in conspiracy theory land of absolutism and fringe extremists what if scenarios, which is certainly your right and prerogative.
Just don;;t expect anyone to give it any credibility.
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Parse properly. It's:
"entities, and organizations that promote" - "organized violence,"
- "violent intimidation,"
- "conspiracies against rights, and"
- "other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...-violence/
No answer to whether this includes strikes and boycotts. Guess I'm not going to get one.
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(09-27-2025, 08:00 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Parse properly. It's:
"entities, and organizations that promote"- "organized violence,"
- "violent intimidation,"
- "conspiracies against rights, and"
- "other efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society"
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...-violence/
No answer to whether this includes strikes and boycotts. Guess I'm not going to get one.
Where does Charlie Kirk fit into your paradigm?
Conversation or personal issues?
Maybe "mostly polite" disagreements?
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09-27-2025, 08:10 PM
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(09-27-2025, 08:03 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Where does Charlie Kirk fit into your paradigm?
Conversation or personal issues?
Maybe "mostly polite" disagreements?
The apotheosis of my paradigm is nonpareil. How about yours?
And perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but isn't using an abhorrent tragedy as a sort of an ideological purity test sort of tacky? I deliberately ignored it the first time.
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