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(07-12-2025, 05:36 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Free speech is also saying I denounce America and hate what it stands for.
FAFO I guess
I remember under Biden plenty of people talking up the idea of a Civil war. That's free speech. I promise if the left gets the presidency again, that same language would be used. I don't think anyone should be able to strip citizenship then either.
It's anti free speech and anti constitutional for other reasons.
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(07-12-2025, 05:45 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I remember under Biden plenty of people talking up the idea of a Civil war. That's free speech. I promise if the left gets the presidency again, that same language would be used. I don't think anyone should be able to strip citizenship then either.
It's anti free speech and anti constitutional for other reasons.
Well then she has nothing to worry about, does she.
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(07-12-2025, 05:51 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Well then she has nothing to worry about, does she.
Probably not, I'd hope that the courts would step in. It would be a horrible precedent. But it does show a growing trend of Trump being anti free speech.
Plus, this might just be a distraction from the ongoing coverup anyways seeing as much of X which used to be very supportive of Trump and his admin have been furious with the handling of other things.
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(07-12-2025, 06:05 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Probably not, I'd hope that the courts would step in. It would be a horrible precedent. But it does show a growing trend of Trump being anti free speech.
Plus, this might just be a distraction from the ongoing coverup anyways seeing as much of X which used to be very supportive of Trump and his admin have been furious with the handling of other things.
Do you think that the folks calling to dox ICE agents is free speech?
Sure, their spouses and children might die, but muh Constitution, amirite?
How about the elected people calling for violence?
Still free speech?
Is "Kill all Jews" free speech?
Or is it promoting and fomenting hatred and anti-semetism?
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(07-12-2025, 06:11 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Do you think that the folks calling to dox ICE agents is free speech?
Sure, their spouses and children might die, but muh Constitution, amirite?
How about the elected people calling for violence?
Still free speech?
Is "Kill all Jews" free speech?
Or is it promoting and fomenting hatred and anti-semetism?
What does that have to do with this?
And no, sometimes speech can be a crime. But lets be real, he's always hated her, and this is just bringing back the ol' Rosie vendetta.
If someone commits a crime, charge them with it. Threatening to strip citizenship just goes after multiple parts of the constitution.
"but muh Constitution, amirite" Never thought I'd here that from you as a retort.
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(07-12-2025, 06:20 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: What does that have to do with this?
And no, sometimes speech can be a crime. But lets be real, he's always hated her, and this is just bringing back the ol' Rosie vendetta.
If someone commits a crime, charge them with it. Threatening to strip citizenship just goes after multiple parts of the constitution.
"but muh Constitution, amirite" Never thought I'd here that from you as a retort.
I never thought I'd have anti-Americans hiding behind the Constitution, but here we are.
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(07-12-2025, 06:29 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I never thought I'd have anti-Americans hiding behind the Constitution, but here we are.
Lol, F*ck Rosie O'Donnell. She's always always been insufferable.
But if you want to protect your own rights, then you have to start defending the one's of people you don't like. If you can't criticize the government and president, what is the point of free speech, even if you disagree with what the people are saying.
During the Patriot Act, we said it would just be a matter of time before they use it on American Citizens, and they did, including people running for office like Trump and Tulsi. We rightfully called it lawfare, and now this admin is using lawfare on certain cases as well.
There's nothing anti American for calling a spade a spade. What he suggested is unconstitutional, full stop.
This isn't left vs right for me, I haven't seen a president in my lifetime defend the constitution.
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(07-12-2025, 06:35 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Lol, F*ck Rosie O'Donnell. She's always always been insufferable.
But if you want to protect your own rights, then you have to start defending the one's of people you don't like. If you can't criticize the government and president, what is the point of free speech, even if you disagree with what the people are saying.
During the Patriot Act, we said it would just be a matter of time before they use it on American Citizens, and they did, including people running for office like Trump and Tulsi. We rightfully called it lawfare, and now this admin is using lawfare on certain cases as well.
There's nothing anti American for calling a spade a spade. What he suggested is unconstitutional, full stop.
This isn't left vs right for me, I haven't seen a president in my lifetime defend the constitution.
Don't feed me that shite!
I've defended hate speech and the moronic left countless times.
But when the left/Democrats start calling for violence, then screw them.
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(07-12-2025, 06:38 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Don't feed me that shite!
I've defended hate speech and the moronic left countless times.
But when the left/Democrats start calling for violence, then screw them.
I've seen the right call for violence too. Have you ever seen me call for stripping of citizenship, deportation, or any retaliation past debate? Nope.
I don't know what hate speech has to do with a president saying he want's to use his power in unconstitutional ways.
If she said "I'm going to commit violence against blank person or blank group", charge her. Super easy, that's a threat.
If you're saying she has general positions, or is associated with political parties who you don't like, and other people have said bad things, I don't think it fits.
Saying all of the above isn't anti American. I can disagree with what politician all I do because I'm a citizen of America, it's one of the rights I'm very grateful for that many people around the world don't have.
If someone supports Trump saying he can circumvent the constitution, by default they have to accept anyone after him can do the same. It's no secret I don't trust him, but I also likely won't trust them either. Give him an inch, they'll take a mile. I don't accept that.
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(07-12-2025, 03:41 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump...2173805537
anyone notice you can't go to https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump and see his latest rants any more? they're only open to inner party members now, or via direct link.
Kool thanks! That's what I was looking for.
and XtwitterX is on nuclear fire right now over this 
They're taking the bait swirling all the way down to the bottom
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