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(04-02-2025, 11:48 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: ...
But Walmart shoppers, and the ones most affected by increased prices are gonna be pissed. And it's not all democrats shopping there.
So 34%? Anywhere from 60 to 80% of Walmart's merchandise is imported from China. Almost all the affordable clothes and shoes for welfare kids are imported. Add in Indonesia, India, and highly tariffed southeast asia, and you have above 90% of what they sell as now inflated by tariff costs. 90% of what poor people buy. They never mattered. And wait for it to get out that his tariffs indirectly target minority populations by attacking their cost of living. And that doesn't even get into how markets naturally respond to tariffs, and that is to raise prices on domestic merchandise because there is money to be had. Unless you think American merchandisers are giving Thailand prices?
... There needs to be something, because if it's like his last tax plan, the poorest will be hurt most.
C'mon. Who cares about the poor? They will be raptured before the economic recession hits. And those who stay will inherit the earth. Which probably means most people on earth will become poor.
Anyway, people on Musk's platform do not share your anxiety. I read the comments and most of them can be summed up with one sentence:
"God bless the president of the United States of America!!!"
So let's rejoice. Glory glory hallelujah!
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(04-02-2025, 05:45 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Seriously? You want the rest of the World to fund you all?
You have it backwards.
Actually it's the rest of the world that wants US to fund THEM.
We want the rest of the world to stop sucking off us ...
We want the rest of the world to stop feeling entitled to having us pay for their security ...
We want the rest of the world to stop tariffing us and overcharging for goods ...
Foreigner are having a melt down because the American gravy train is stopping.
They complain about us not treating 'friends and allies' right, when in fact it is those supposed
friends and allies' that havent' been treating America right economically all these decades.
Don't like the reciprocal tariffs? Then have those foreigners take their own tariffs off.
Any whining about America's tariffs from foreign countries is hypocrisy and a perfect
example of the entitlement foreigners feel towards making Americans pay for everything.
And for the record ... to your previous post ... Elon Musk did NOT make a Nazi salute.
That's ridiculous left wing rhetoric.
Even the antidefamation league made a statement stating as such.
make russia small again
Don't be a useful idiot. Deny Ignorance.
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(04-02-2025, 06:58 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Such bombastic, and blustery adjectives and convictions, are similar to the bombastic and blustery adjectives and convictions that predicted Russia would lose to Ukraine if we just outspend them in 2-3 years.
We shall see...wont we
This thread is about Trump Neurosis.
Your opening sentence seems to describe Trump quite well.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(04-03-2025, 04:42 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: You have it backwards.
Actually it's the rest of the world that wants US to fund THEM.
We want the rest of the world to stop sucking off us ...
We want the rest of the world to stop feeling entitled to having us pay for their security ...
We want the rest of the world to stop tariffing us and overcharging for goods ...
Foreigner are having a melt down because the American gravy train is stopping.
They complain about us not treating 'friends and allies' right, when in fact it is those supposed
friends and allies' that havent' been treating America right economically all these decades.
Don't like the reciprocal tariffs? Then have those foreigners take their own tariffs off.
Any whining about America's tariffs from foreign countries is hypocrisy and a perfect
example of the entitlement foreigners feel towards making Americans pay for everything.
And for the record ... to your previous post ... Elon Musk did NOT make a Nazi salute.
That's ridiculous left wing rhetoric.
Even the antidefamation league made a statement stating as such.
I was talking about the income tax thing.
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(04-02-2025, 09:05 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Be proud of it. I am. In my mind it's a reciprocal tariff for having to listen to 4 years of people mentally fapping over George Soros... and Nancy Pelosi... and Newsom... and California.... and Maxists... and memetic 'clown worlds'... and NWOs... And woke.... and stolen elections... and unfairly persecuted felons... and so on and so forth.... but it's not called neurosis when they do it, oh heavens dear me no, it is called "a great awakening".
But your list... that's also pretty much my list.
TDS has two equally valid variants that could still yet act like two standing waves.
Trump Derangement Syndrome and Trump Denial Syndrome.
The former is reactive and finds a reason to hate him and his administration more (like me), the latter is deflective and protective. And the former's opinion is the latter will scurry through any mental obstacle course, and only listen to what conservative media says, because they've truly been brainwashed to believe everyone else but conservative media and Trump lies. In a general sense, they fully bought that Q-Anon Soros-WEF deep state BS hook line and sinker.
And now the f*cking Heritage Foundation runs this country through a quasi-Nazi puppet.
And things only seem apocalyptic to me because I am a one-world apologist that likes roads which lead towards A Federation of Planets. Something beyond being a pathetic Type 0 AUTOFAIL civilization that can't handle itself, let alone the realities of galactic politics.
You know, they allegedly like watching our Olympics, because it's the only time our planet is united, the aliens I mean. I may be an alien too, feel like one.
And that ends this edition of my Trump neurosis with alternative music.
We discussed types of civilizations in the debate thingy thread, still think as I postulated then, perhaps humans can't advance fast enough in our limited lifespan to be anything but an autofail civilization. We retain very little from our previous generations and have to learn many of the same lessons over and over. Perhaps we are already pushing the envelope on humanity intellectually and we are already past the envelope for humanity mentally. Like rats too crowded in a cage, we claw at and bite and fight.
now because of technology not only can one rat annoy thier next-door neighbor rat but this rat can reach out and annoy rats across the pond in merry old Wiltshire Englandstan and beautiful San Diego. Collectively we can't handle the input, the outside stimuli.
Look how long it's taken for TPTB to let the JFK stuff percolate out in the open, how can anybody trust any side BTW, but we process life too slowly we can be manipulated and distracted easily, that there is a good possibility, if and when humanity advances it will be taking just a small micro fraction of the 7 billion a long for the ride.
This brings back and make no mistake use your Obama's voice I trust no one, no side, each side just has a different hustle to enrich themselves and maintain power. Additionally, I would give my left nut to be less plugged in as it seems, it's from boredom mostly. From my 20-50s my life was full to the brim, I didn't have much room for politics. Now Im talking about the Hawley Smoot Tariff Act or other mundane political procedures every day.
Ive always liked politics though really enjoyed the book and the movie All The Presidents Men. I think it was in there or another political history book that I latched on to the notion that additionally, we do better if we bounce from one party to another because there is a certain percentage of Americans who are non-conformists. Democrats have had the last 12 of 16 years let's see what the Republicans can do. As for Trump and Biden and most other politicians, I just don't have the emotions about them, when you learn that most Presidents' histories and peccadillos.
So when someone thinks Im a staunch GOP or DNC it is hilarious... My ISidewith.com profile says otherwise, but just because I post a comment or article on little old triple-digit membered Deny Ignorance to get a discussion going Im a Trumper or Trump defender and deflector.
To bring it full circle one reason I leaned towards Trump irrespective of the awful Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, but because of RFKjr and just the feeling that my generation was robbed of having JFK for 2 terms and likely RFK after that except our pesky little triumvirate in the CIA decided differently. Angleton McNamara and Dulles Bros altered our destiny
I survived Dot.com and Real Estate and Banks busting COVID-19 conditions/ we have had Russia and the US in a proxy war between Israel/Gaza so the OMB 2.0 paranoid neurosis and worry just aren't on my radar.
I preferred it when we didn't know who the Congressperson in the 16th district of New York was. We weren't supposed to be hanging on our politicians' every word and analyzing thier every action, in theory, they were supposed to do thier jobs for 1 or 2 terms and fricking disappear.
Will tariffs work? who hell knows, depends on how many countries' leaders and thier politicians lose thier composure, I guess. We will find out soon enough. But really if any of us knew the answers to all these questions would we even be on a message board such as this?
Hell nobody has a clue on the larger platforms either but we are going to get serious and hash it out on DI? the faux self-importance of the cause, whatever the cause is today. If I have a public neurosis, thats my neurosis LOL and your neurosis is infringing on my neurosis.
I do appreciate the conversation though, there's no ill intent here on my part on those who think Im trumpeting Trump and not aghast with angst worry, and concern. Even with a less-than-full life, I don't have the time for that shit.
No guarantees but it's just a few of us here, we are just making the same point over and over by verbalizing it differently.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....
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(04-03-2025, 04:49 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: This thread is about Trump Neurosis.
Your opening sentence seems to describe Trump quite well.
So it's a monkey see monkey do...
Have a good day sir.. hope you and yours are well in Wiltshire
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TONY™
“I’m not a Pro-Trumper at all. But I believe in it. I’m a business owner. I know how it works” Trump’s Tariffs explained in simple terms! America’s business owners want this!!
https://x.com/TONYxTWO/status/1907779787730378838
FWIW we are in the middle of our Fall Market buying season, the last 2 days of the market trade show have already exceeded last year. We normally close at 6 but we have been busy till 8-9 in the evening. An extremely good sign.
but our clientele is mostly resilient southern retailers.
Usually, our industry is like the canary in the coal mine, it reacts earlier than most about 85% of all of our goods are from China.
But for our business, it levels the playing field where before we were losing business to really Chinese knockoffs now those too will have tariffs and won't be so cheap, thus a net win for American companies
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So, Trump imposes tariff on Heard and McDonald Islands, which are uninhabited, except by penguins:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequ...-on-earth/
Did those naughty penguins rape pillage and plunder the US?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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04-03-2025, 12:25 PM
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(04-03-2025, 12:18 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So, Trump imposes tariff on Heard and McDonald Islands, which are uninhabited, except by penguins:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequ...-on-earth/
Did those naughty penguins rape pillage and plunder the US?
Now, what is more likely, that some intern sloppily went though a list of territories from Wikipedia to make Trump's posterboards,
OR
That you don't really know what is actually going on there, on those "uninhabited" islands, and this is a brilliant 5-D chess move by Trump, "sending a message"?
Perhaps you need to buckle your buttercup.
As proof, here is a meme:
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It's weird to watch a global power like America under Trump taking such a nose dive.
Attacking it's own working class with massive price increases, forcing it's allies like Japan and South Korea to make nice with China whilst wiping billions of its own stock market and effecting worldwide stock markets.
Trump is slowly bombing the world economy which will have a direct impact and slowdown on Americas own economy, whilst at the same time causing a worldwide trade war, with countries looking elsewhere for trade, again causing harm to American industries.
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news...us-tariffs
Quote:New Delhi: China, Japan, and South Korea have agreed to jointly respond to US tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump . The decision to join hands against Trump's tariffs came after a meeting between the three countries' trade ministers on Sunday, marking the first economic dialogue in five years. The collaboration between the three countries aimed to facilitate regional trade and strengthen supply chain cooperation, particularly in the semiconductor industry.
According to reports, the trilateral meeting resulted in several important agreements. The three countries will coordinate their responses to US trade actions, including counter-tariffs, to dilute the impact on their respective industries. China will supply raw materials for chip production to Japan and South Korea, while the latter two countries will share their expertise in chip manufacturing. The cooperation could stabilise production lines across Asia.
Moreover, the countries have also pledged to accelerate discussions on a free trade agreement to reduce dependency on the US market
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