Trump Neurosis Thread

[putnam6]

But really, though... Ms Loomer. Is that making America great again? Have you ever heard her speak for more than 2 minutes? It's... something.


Environmentalism, Social Justice, and Universal Healthcare?

Haha just kidding.

Haha I forgot your ass was flying around here...

I assume you are being ultra facetious and or ultra sarcastic, it's been a long night here but I should have been more specific.  As usual, you are generally correct

But generally, if these were the "issues" how well has the left addressed them in the last 12 of 16 years they were the leaders in the free world?

 https://news.gallup.com/poll/643850/seve...h-day.aspx

3. The Environment Ranks Relatively Low Among Americans’ National ConcernsAmong the leading issues confronting the nation, the environment ranks as a lesser public concern, with 37% saying they worry a great deal about environmental quality. This contrasts with much higher levels of concern shown for inflation (55%), crime and violence (53%), hunger and homelessness (52%), the economy, healthcare, and federal spending, all troubling to more than half of Americans.
The environment ranks with energy, race relations and unemployment as issues evoking the least concern.
 

As for Social justice collectively we don't define or quantify social justice the same, thus solutions will have to be as diverse and different for each specific area, again throwing money for transgender hair styling lessons for men in Ghana isn't going to improve social justice in the US. 






 Those are just planks in the party's platform, and more importantly, it's not just being right identifying the problems it's coming up with real viable solutions beyond just throwing a shit ton of money at them

There are plenty of misguided and wrong initiatives for solutions in each grouping...

Environmentalism isn't wrong, but is destroying the best electric vehicle manufacturers' products the best initiative? How about plastic straws? Does that make a difference? not even gonna mention the extreme environmental damage the lithium and cobalt mines cause, including toxic levels of minerals leaching into the local water tables

Social Justice is a just cause for sure but BLM's leaders have absconded with about 40 million dollars which is a drop in the bucket compared to social justice initiatives USAID was slated to pay for in other countries while our citizens drown in debt. DEI hiring especially in critical jobs can cause far-ranging and unexpected consequences in efficiency and safety.

Universal Healthcare OK  I mostly agree, but how do we pay for it, and what happens to all those health insurance jobs? and what is covered? sore throats are fine, but having Adam's apple surgery?  lots of questions here, UHC in countries with populations as high as the US is notoriously lousy, and takes forever. 

perhaps most importantly only healthcare is ranked in the top 10 in this 2023 Wall Street ranking suggesting one person's top concern is just another man's issues to look into.  

https://247wallst.com/special-report/202...ns-ranked/

[quintessentone]

Haha I forgot your ass was flying around here...

I assume you are being ultra facetious and or ultra sarcastic, it's been a long night here but I should have been more specific.  As usual, you are generally correct

But generally, if these were the "issues" how well has the left addressed them in the last 12 of 16 years they were the leaders in the free world?

 https://news.gallup.com/poll/643850/seve...h-day.aspx

As for Social justice collectively we don't define or quantify social justice the same, thus solutions will have to be as diverse and different for each specific area, again throwing money for transgender hair styling lessons for men in Ghana isn't going to improve social justice in the US. 

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 Those are just planks in the party's platform, and more importantly, it's not just being right identifying the problems it's coming up with real viable solutions beyond just throwing a shit ton of money at them

There are plenty of misguided and wrong initiatives for solutions in each grouping...

Environmentalism isn't wrong, but is destroying the best electric vehicle manufacturers' products the best initiative? How about plastic straws? Does that make a difference? not even gonna mention the extreme environmental damage the lithium and cobalt mines cause, including toxic levels of minerals leaching into the local water tables

Social Justice is a just cause for sure but BLM's leaders have absconded with about 40 million dollars which is a drop in the bucket compared to social justice initiatives USAID was slated to pay for in other countries while our citizens drown in debt. DEI hiring especially in critical jobs can cause far-ranging and unexpected consequences in efficiency and safety.

Universal Healthcare OK  I mostly agree, but how do we pay for it, and what happens to all those health insurance jobs? and what is covered? sore throats are fine, but having Adam's apple surgery?  lots of questions here, UHC in countries with populations as high as the US is notoriously lousy, and takes forever. 

perhaps most importantly only healthcare is ranked in the top 10 in this 2023 Wall Street ranking suggesting one person's top concern is just another man's issues to look into.  

https://247wallst.com/special-report/202...ns-ranked/

As is relating to heathcare in the Pew Research and where you suggest one person's top concern is just another man's issues to look into, I would think the data/facts/answers would change drastically if say 75% of those people that were asked the same question were facing serious health issues and had to pay out of pocket. See where I am going with this?

[xuenchen]

Trump Admin? Naw, this describes closer to The Johnson, Carter, Obama, Biden Administrations. 
 

Hmm...mkay, now how does this apply to Trump and his administration?

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[putnam6]

reciprocalitynoun

1. The quality or condition of being reciprocal; reciprocalness.
   Similar: reciprocalness
   
2. The quality or condition of being reciprocal.
   
3. A relation of mutual dependence or action or influence.
   

One person's reciprocality is another person's opening salvo to negotiations which is exactly what Trump suggested when a reporter asked about China's tariffs. This applies to every country's new "imposed" terrible Trump tariffs aka if a country doesn't appreciate the adjustments their leader should reach out to OMB and negotiate with the Art of the Deal master himself. 

That is what Trump is seeking he wants every leader, even the penguins to call him and ask him for better terms. Do I like that as a tactic, no I don't but it fits his M.O

It's so right up his alley, and it's pretty much Northeastern US businessman negotiation tactics 101. Ive worked with dozens and dozens of New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania companies and every time there is a new president or CFO at these companies they want to renegotiate as many contracts as possible. 
Hell a lot of them use the same verbiage Trump is using. 

State your position rationally and take the concerns individually, it's nothing but a dance back and forth and then some will negotiate some will get pissy and will not. Most likely specific goods will get better terms or atleast that is what happened in previous tariff SNOs the major players will negotiate modified tariffs.

About 12-15 years ago our industry got better terms with China but it was donkey's years in the making and it took industry-wide participation a completely new Industry association and getting a Congressperson or 2 involved. This is how it works, this is NEGOTIATIONS. There will be countries negotiating publically and ones that will insist on negotiating privately and some will just take it as the new cost of doing business.

Trump is such a lightning rod some people choose to lose their shit, but right or wrong with Trump virtually everything is business and he will approach most situations like a business. During his first term friend and foe alike said this of DJT.

[putnam6]

Hmm...mkay, now how does this apply to Trump and his administration?

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it doesn't apply at all, does half the country, the left's people look so occupied with thier daily tasks to keep from burning Teslas.

Hell no the people opposing Trump the left have been laser-focused since his 1st term on not only plotting but executing, and his base hangs on his every word.

[Oldcarpy2]

"and negotiate with the Art of the Deal master himself. "

Is that sarcasm? I believe that he didn't write that book himself.

Judging by his bankrupted companies and his negotiating with Putin etc he's pretty well clueless!

[Oldcarpy2]

"and his base hangs on his every word."

This is, quite inexplicably, and sadly, true.

Apologies, my TDS is playing me up something rotten today...

[quintessentone]

it doesn't apply at all, does half the country, the left's people look so occupied with thier daily tasks to keep from burning Teslas.

Hell no the people opposing Trump the left have been laser-focused since his 1st term on not only plotting but executing, and his base hangs on his every word.

Are the majority of the people there experiencing dwindling bang for their buck yet? Just wait a little longer.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

it doesn't apply at all, does half the country, the left's people look so occupied with thier daily tasks to keep from burning Teslas.

Hell no the people opposing Trump the left have been laser-focused since his 1st term on not only plotting but executing, and his base hangs on his every word.

How many Teslas have been burnt by righteous conviction so far?

Let me know when it reaches the reproductive care average.

2021 Violence and Disruption Statistics:

Total Incidents: 290,957
Vandalism: 203 incidents

Other Incidents:

11 murders
42 bombings
200 arsons
531 assaults
492 clinic invasions
375 burglaries

In the US and Canada, there have been at least 80 reported cases of vandalism or arson of Tesla vehicles and at least 10 Tesla dealerships, charging stations, and facilities have been hit by vandals. 

And they haven't even blockaded any dealerships, or killed any car salesmen yet. They gotta step it up to showroom invasions too.

[Maxmars]

"and negotiate with the Art of the Deal master himself. "

Is that sarcasm? I believe that he didn't write that book himself.

Judging by his bankrupted companies and his negotiating with Putin etc he's pretty well clueless!

Well, not in defense of Trump, per se,

But he (or his associates) had to have anticipated that the action would precipitate "a rush,"
by those who will first feel the 'tightening' of the the metaphorical " US belt"
to argue for negotiation. 

Media will happily amplify it as the next "world" crisis, when, interestingly, he may just want to "talk." 

To conduct business.

Perhaps even to lessen the impact on their own people interests, over trying to negotiate publicly, for the virtuous virtual "world."

Opportunities abound.

The "political" Trump says that if anyone needs to suffer, those who aren't Americans should not be exempt. 
I wonder if there have been too many dubious arrangements, or 'largesse's' lingering in the nebulous mist of "Federal" accounting... hmm?
(Let's start with the Fed.)

Regardless, this seems to translate certain changes we are all watching closely should all watch closely.  

I expect American policy to protect and preserve people "other than" Americans... but not at the expense and to the detriment of her citizens... 

I know... I know... "expect" in one hand... spit in the other... see which fills up first!