Trump Neurosis Thread

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I wasn't even paying attention. I just felt it's a reference that needed pointing out. Plus I tend to write something, want to rephrase it, not check the spelling or butcher English, have to fix it, and then rinse/repeat. Might as well edit it an unnecessary number of times right away and get it right. Except punctuation and spelling.

Like with the last one. I remembered about the funny flag I saw on Facebook. And added it in instead of a new post.

[putnam6]

Good God man. Dow Jones down 5%?

Global recession imminent?

Trump Denial Syndrome.

Trillions wiped off of US companies.

Thanks to the Master of the Art of the Deal.

You will probably be cheering this when you and your MAGA lemmings go over the cliff!

It's not even funny anymore.

When all you have is not quite hilarious memes....zzzzzz

Go on, do your funny laughing tw@t one with the dodgy moustache. Yet again....

Oh noes what will we do... and remember you asked for it.



I'll guarantee Im financially worth a lot less than you or most people here, like the lower middle class at the moment. Virtually the lowest of my adult life...life experiences 

Still, business persons and CFOs I've worked with and respected over the years, ones Ive talked to seem to believe as Ive said over and over this too shall pass, and it was past time to make some adjustments, it will bottom out and rise back quickly. Tariffs if deemed too "unfair" will be negotiated on a case-by-case basis. Just as our industry did with IP infringement and China. Those are thier words

But Im tired it's Friday and I have dinner to think about 

Here's what Grok suggests may occur it mirrors what persons Ive worked with within an industry completely reliant on imports have told me as well. They could be completely wrong but life experiences, 40 years in an industry vs comments on a message board. 

Vietnam understands its NEGOTIATIONS 





As always hope you have a great day and weekend too...

Just remember I didn't want Biden to fail either...

https://x.com/i/grok/share/XJo2NUYnXRVikNeCZotOcnSl9

[putnam6]

https://x.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1908271063768666370

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

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We have a version of that! We can do that too!



* Fixed original version to be more accurate.

[UltraBudgie]

Curious if there's anything to this:

The outsized U.S. national debt has ballooned to $36.2 trillion, and a staggering $9.2 trillion of it is set to mature in 2025. This accounts for 25.4% of the country’s total debt, raising concerns over its implications for financial markets, interest rates, and economic stability.

The rapid accumulation of debt has been fueled by historic levels of deficit spending. More recently, since 2020, debt has grown by $13 trillion, averaging $2.6 trillion per year for five consecutive years.

Meanwhile, the federal deficit for 2024 stands at $1.8 trillion, or 6.4% of GDP, and interest payments on the debt have ballooned to over $1 trillion per year

https://finbold.com/9-trillion-of-us-deb...e-worried/

With so much national debt coming due in next six months, it will need to be refinanced:

The maturing debt is almost double the total federal revenue of $5.03 trillion. 70% of this debt—about $6.5 trillion—will mature between January and June 2025, creating immense pressure on bond markets.

Much of this maturing debt was borrowed at significantly lower interest rates. With the average interest rate on U.S. Treasury debt now at 3.2%—the highest since 2010—rolling over this debt at current yields will be expensive.

Crash the market to lower the t-bill rate? Forced to impose these tariffs to avoid crashing the bond market? What's really going on here, other than Trumpbad? (I mean, yes Trumpbad, but there's always larger games, right?)

[UltraBudgie]

A little more about interest rate brinksmanship:

With the Fed still battling inflation after the runaway surge in prices of 2022 and 2023, it is reluctant to lower interest rates when price increases in a range of goods could be just around the corner. And on Friday, the latest jobs report from the government showed that the economy in March remained reasonably strong. Employers added 228,000 jobs for the month, far more than anticipated, and while the unemployment rate rose slightly, to 4.2 percent from 4.1 percent, there were few signs of substantial weakness.

Given that backdrop, Mr. Powell seemed to be signaling that it would take an actual slowdown, with substantial job declines, to justify rate cuts under current circumstances. Consumer confidence has declined, and an Economic Policy Uncertainty Index that is closely watched by economists and business executives has soared. But concrete data isn’t here yet. If they’re not rolled back, the tariffs are likely to take a while to result in widespread layoffs — and without strong evidence of a slowdown, the Fed may be reluctant to act.

Yet the Fed has already come under pressure from President Trump to lower interest rates. This is the “PERFECT time” for a Fed rate cut, he said on the Truth Social media platform on Friday, shortly before Mr. Powell’s speech. Maintaining Fed independence is important in the markets, and there was no indication that this overt presidential pressure had any effect on Mr. Powell’s staunch resolve to bide his time, and to lower interest rates only when and if the Fed decided it was time to do so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/05/busin...ation.html

I mean, paying a trillion dollars a year in interest alone kind of adds up.

[putnam6]

We have a version of that! We can do that too!

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* Fixed original version to be more accurate.

Yeah, I know it seems like Im a rabid conservative but Im not. Just posting to spur the conversation. 

I try not to compare eras or even decades so much has changed. The Obama era was pretty good to putnam6 and like any other President, we are finding out shit later. My awakening was all the fallout from 9.11 Dubya and Cheaney, even then it's not as if I was fawning over them contemporaneously it was well known Dubya was a doofus, and Dick and Donald Rumsfeld were basically in charge.  

Ive had way more liberal girlfriends than conservative ones and even my friends were/are a mixture. Politics and whatnot weren't daily conversations, my ex-wife was a Democrat and we rarely discussed politics we were too busy just trying to pay bills and raise our now wonderful and decidedly liberal daughters. Even with them, we can discuss politics LOL convey our thoughts, and move on as they know thier Dad loves them both fiercely.

It might be my age but it seems to me shifts characterize the whole political paradigm, shifts initially manipulated by the button-pushing CIA/MIC and covered up by BOTH parties since the 50s. We had the Eisenhower chat who was the likely last uncompromised President, then boom boom boom the JFK MLK RFK Malcolm Vietnam 60s 70s chaos shift then a comparatively calmer late 70s-90s. Even then we had our intelligentsia all in Iran Contra and the war on drugs and assisting you know who in you know where

Then 9/11 and WMD aftermath then COVID which may have been a complete setup and was certainly manipulated masterfully behind the scenes, then we have Ukraine and Russia, and its exploitation like Iraq and Afghanistan on steroids was made by connected politicians on both sides.

We know now rogue elements of the CIA were complicit in covering up the JFK assassination investigation, throw in the MIC corporate effect, and none of that has gone away, it has grown in the last half-century in the darkness like a fungus. Ive been skeptical ever since reading about JFK's assassination and certainly since reading You Are Being Lied too

but yeah now Trump's in control?

If so it's likely only because those former rogue elements are normalized and others along with the MIC 8.0 want the illusion that it is so. The well-used Kabuki theater reality does sometimes fit. It invites you to see the world as a stage—whether that’s insightful or overly cynical depends on your perspective. 

That's where my own personal neurosis coming from...for the moment

[TzarChasm]

Yeah, I know it seems like Im a rabid conservative but Im not. Just posting to spur the conversation 


I try not to compare eras or even decades so much has changed. The Obama era was pretty good to putnam6 and like any other President, we are finding out shit later. My awakening was all the fallout from 9.11 Dubya and Cheaney, even then it's not as if I was fawning over them contemporaneously it was well known Dubya was a doofus, and Dick and Donald Rumsfeld were basically in charge.  

Ive had way more liberal girlfriends than conservative ones and even my friends were/are a mixture. Politics and whatnot weren't daily conversations, my ex-wife was a Democrat and we rarely discussed politics we were too busy just trying to pay bills and raise our now wonderful and decidedly liberal daughters. Even with them, we can discuss politics LOL convey our thoughts, and move on as they know thier Dad loves them both fiercely.

It might be my age but it seems to me shifts characterize the whole political paradigm, shifts initially manipulated by the button-pushing CIA/MIC and covered up by BOTH parties since the 50s. We had the Eisenhower chat who was the likely last uncompromised President, then boom boom boom the JFK MLK RFK Malcolm Vietnam 60s 70s chaos shift then a comparatively calmer late 70s-90s. Even then we had our intelligentsia all in Iran Contra and the war on drugs and assisting you know who in you know where

Then 9/11 and WMD aftermath then COVID which may have been a complete setup and was certainly manipulated masterfully behind the scenes, then we have Ukraine and Russia, and its exploitation like Iraq and Afghanistan on steroids was made by connected politicians on both sides.

We know now rogue elements of the CIA were complicit in covering up the JFK assassination investigation, throw in the MIC corporate effect, and none of that has gone away, it has grown in the last half-century in the darkness like a fungus. Ive been skeptical ever since reading about JFK's assassination and certainly since reading You Are Being Lied too

but yeah now Trump's in control?

If so it's likely only because those rogue elements and others along with the MIC 8.0 want the illusion that it is so. The well-used Kabuki theater reality does sometimes fit. It invites you to see the world as a stage—whether that’s insightful or overly cynical depends on your perspective. 

That's where my own personal neurosis coming from...for the moment 

Simply put, there's been lots of activity behind the curtain which was collaborated over several decades by appointed professionals who abused their status, abused tax payer funds, abused the media complex. Regardless of your affiliation those behaviors need to be scrutinized and measures of accountability updated to remind the whole spectrum of ideologues that we are the jury and our verdict determines their status.

[putnam6]

Maybe you can edit your post and trim all that extra junk like I just did for you here?

HAHA done I got pulled away from the computer, no other comments? LOL and when did you get here?

[TzarChasm]

HAHA done I got pulled away from the computer, no other comments? LOL and when did you get here?

Updated my comments. I made this account in January after the second (third?) ATS outage prior to our current situation because I lost the rogue nation link and can't find their forum on Google.