Trump Executive Order okays incarceration of homeless

[andy06shake]

Suspect as in I suspect that graffiti was done by someone who’s native language isn’t English.
Further stoking the flames of the immigration debate going on there.
Basically, the UK version of a Jussie Smollet or Bubba Wallace hoax.

What about these Gammon Mensa candidates? 

Are they English enough for you? 

You have an excuse for everything and an answer for nothing.

And find it unpalatable that people punting the same nonsense you choose to believe could be thick as pig s@it. 

At some point, you might just have to accept that a lot of the people running around punting all this inflammatory, racist, hate-filled agenda.

Are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, or the full shilling either. 

"Useful idiots" all the same, no doubt about that fact.

[andy06shake]

Wait, what? So if English isn't someone's first language, they're suspect? Why exactly?

No, the Muppets responsible for writing the graffiti just did not go to school for very long, or pay attention in class.

Hence, the simple spelling errors, and the fact that they are so easily manipulated into hatred by people like Farage.

[andy06shake]

No proof anywhere he (if "he" is even real) "claimed" anything.
Somebody else claimed he claimed 

Is this the fella?

If so, there is plenty of information that can establish whether or not he is real and can be checked. 

Looks pretty real to me. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

[Vermilion]

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What about these Gammon Mensa candidates? 

Are they English enough for you? 

You have an excuse for everything and an answer for nothing.

At some point, you might just have to accept that a lot of the people running around punting all this inflammatory, racist, hate-filled agenda.

Are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, or the full shilling either. 

"Useful idiots" all the same, no doubt about that fact.

My guess is as good as yours as to who really did it.
We can agree they’re both muppets though.

Based on your immediate accusation of racism, I’d wonder if you would think a graffitied phrase “indigenous kids first” is racist.

[andy06shake]

My guess is as good as yours as to who really did it.
We can agree they’re both muppets though.

Based on your immediate accusation of racism, I’d wonder if you would think a graffitied phrase “indigenous kids first” is racist.

Your problem is thats not what it said. 

It said "BRiTSH KidS fRiST" so........................

I think graffiti outside school gates is against the law, for a start.

It's also disgracefully shameful and designed to incite hate, that is, if the poor kids could understand such gibberish. 

It harkens back the the kind of racist hate-filled BNP nonsense you would see plastered on a derelict brick wall from the 1980s.

I also think all kids should come first, no matter where they hail from or happen to be.

Reciprocate please.

What do you mean by "indigenous"?

Do you mean the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, or Norman kids?

Or the Welsh, Cornish, Scots, Celtics or Gaelic children?

We are "We're all Jock Tamson's bairns" you see.

And modern Britain is pretty much ethnically mixed.

[Vermilion]

Your problem is thats not what it said. 

It said "BRiTSH KidS fRiST" so........................

I think graffiti outside school gates is against the law, for a start.

It's also disgracefully shameful and designed to incite hate, that is, if the poor kids could understand such gibberish. 

I also think all kids should come first, no matter where they hail from or happen to be.

Reciprocate please, what do you mean by "indigenous"?

Do you mean the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, or Norman kids?

Or the Welsh, Cornish, Scots, Celtics or Gaelic children?

We are "We're all Jock Tamson's bairns" you see.

And modern Britain is pretty much ethnically mixed.

You specifically brought up racism in regards to “British kids first”.
Then you say Britain is ethnically mixed.
Is British a race instead of a nationality now?

Indigenous means the natives.
Your islands natives.
Is “indigenous kids first” racist too?

[andy06shake]

You specifically brought up racism in regards to “British kids first”.
Then you say Britain is ethnically mixed.
Is British a race instead of a nationality now?

Indigenous means the natives.
Your islands natives.
Is “indigenous kids first” racist too?

You specifically brought up and started hate-filled ranting about the UK and daft Sharia jobs nonsense when the thread is about Trump's executive order and the incarceration of the homeless, so.......
 
"British kids first" isn't automatically racist, but the context matters, as you well know.
 
If it's used to exclude or devalue children based on ethnicity, it crosses into racism.
 
Placed outside a school gate, the intent and purpose is rather clear.
 
And using "indigenous kids first" to imply superiority or priority over other British children based on heritage promotes ethnic nationalism.
 
I would also point out, if they cannot manage to spell the word "British", "indigenous" is going to be a bit of a stretch. 

It's probably best to return to the correct continent and the actual topic of the thread, methinks.

[xuenchen]

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...ghhdfg.jpg]Is this the fella?

If so, there is plenty of information that can establish whether or not he is real and can be checked. 

Looks pretty real to me. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

​​​​​​​ ​​​​​​​you fall hard for it too

[Solvedit]

I know an RN who works forensic mental health.
She lives in her car.

It has been said, "Many people are two or three paychecks away from poverty and homelessness."

With this new EO we might as well say:
Many people are two or three paychecks away from poverty and incarceration.

Do you have a concrete reason to believe there won't be any oversight or guidelines?  

Can it be all they have to do is not harass people and crap all over sidewalks?  Maybe live in shelters or their car and look for work instead of camping out all over downtown areas, do drugs, and harass people? 

Can it be the cops are given discretion over who to arrest based on unacceptable behavior and wouldn't just run any homeless person in?  

Do you seriously think they're getting ready to raid soup kitchens and shelters?

[Bootless]

1) Do you have a concrete reason to believe there won't be any oversight or guidelines?  

2) Can it be all they have to do is not harass people and crap all over sidewalks?  Maybe live in shelters or their car and look for work instead of camping out all over downtown areas, do drugs, and harass people? 

3) Can it be the cops are given discretion over who to arrest based on unacceptable behavior and wouldn't just run any homeless person in?  

4) Do you seriously think they're getting ready to raid soup kitchens and shelters?

[ note: numbers added by Bootless for simplicity sake ] 

1) There is a bit of projection, comparing what has been and is happening with ICE raids, with what is likely to happen in homeless encampment raids.

2) I've only seen large quantities of urban homeless camping one time in San Francisco, it was early 2000s, when rolling blackouts were a thing due to Enron shenanigans. I don't remember seeing crap on the sidewalks, but I wasn't looking for it particularly. I saw a lot of depressed (listless) looking people.

I've got this fear of crowds and fear of getting lost in crowds (Enochlophobia) so I stay away from crowded cities. A guy tricked me into going to the Haight Ashbury Street Fair that year. It was horrifying. I was as far away as I could get with my back against a wall. But everyone else seemed to be having an enjoyable time.

So because of the enochlophobia when I burned out (technical term for emotionally broken) from working with the demented and dying, late 90s, I quit, sold what I could in a hurry and lived in my car for a year. My routine was 8 days in the woods, then quick trip to the boat dock that had cheap hot showers, get some food cheap, then back to the woods for another 8 days.

I did eat with people in the boat yard. That's where boats are on land for repairs. People lived there in boats even when they weren't fixing them. And there was an encampment about two miles away in a wooded area. I went there only once because I knew some people there. That camp got raided by the cops about a month later. They just busted everything up and told everyone to leave.

I fear that under this EO, the raids will be more like bust everything up and arrest everyone rather than chasing them away.

3) The cops will have more lee-way and less accountability under the EO rather. As I showed in a previous post.

4) No. Shelters and food kitchens may be spared, depending on who is running them. Those deemed unacceptable probably will get raided.