Trump Executive Order okays incarceration of homeless

[ReturnofBroccoli]

It seems this order is specifically targeting drugs and sex offenders within the homeless population, both words are littered throughout the entire executive order. The number of homeless sex offenders is estimated at 13% nationwide *about 35,750 if you consider homeless population to be 275,000* with more than 50% of all homeless in 8 select states being registered offenders *im curious which states those are* Apparently, they face housing restrictions being sex offenders and are finding it difficult to receive employment. The order also addresses the squatting issue for home and business owners. It also mentions housing first for homeless families and a priority on women and children. It also fixes some issues in abusing programs that are already in place for drugs, housing, etc. It briefly mentions incarceration as a last resort or for those found breaking laws for example with fraud in the current system.

Can anyone who is against this executive order copy and paste the part of this order they are having issues with because it seems to be 85-90% about what I stated above. If you are against it I would expect to see at least 50% of it copy and pasted if the majority of this order is as negative as you feel, right? If you respond with a sliver of the order I will tickle you about it and tell you that you agree with the majority of it :p

[WallFlowerActive]

No.

Quote the full context of what was posted.

f you care so much, shut up.  Go join and volunteer with charities that fight human trafficking.  Which volunteer group do you donate and volunteer with concerning human trafficking.  Or you just another political hack.

[quintessentone]

I just came across this Youtube video:
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwn2EPKee5Q].
Here is the link to the executive order:
Ending Crime and Disorder on American Streets
It sounds to me like more federally paid, unidentified, masked, armed, bounty hunters will be in our towns right alongside the ones working for mass deportations.

Trump is targeting the symptoms of criminal activity and social behaviour at the bottom of the pyramid, but really not getting to the root of the problem, which is complex, but comes from policies from the top.

What is your government doing about the big drug players causing addictive drug use (through giving free drug samples to get people hooked) and perhaps causing homelessness through addiction. What is your government doing about economic inequality through crafting fair and equitable tax policies? What is your government doing about sending in counselors to the streets to offer advice and help getting off that trap, or creating places for people to go for help?

Homeless people also include low wage earners and people who are just one paycheck away from eviction and lost the toss of the dice. 

The problem needs to be handled from the top down first, but it is being ignored as usual because it costs time, money, and effort. Rounding up addicted homeless people is the easiest way to fulfill an agenda to appease a political base that can't or won't understand the complexities of society and how to combat, in a meaningful way, symptoms of a system down; deflection at it's finest.

Go to mark 19:57 for insight into criminology:

[Bootless]

Can anyone who is against this executive order copy and paste the part of this order they are having issues with because it seems to be 85-90% about what I stated above. If you are against it I would expect to see at least 50% of it copy and pasted if the majority of this order is as negative as you feel, right? If you respond with a sliver of the order I will tickle you about it and tell you that you agree with the majority of it :p

The Federal Government and the States have spent tens of billions of dollars on failed programs that address homelessness but not its root causes,

It can be argued that adequate funding has never been available, because of the "need" to insure that billionaires and corporations (major donors) get the tax cuts they want.

Sec. 2.  Restoring Civil Commitment.  (a)  The Attorney General, in consultation with the Secretary of Health and Human Services, shall take appropriate action to:
(i)   seek, in appropriate cases, the reversal of Federal or State judicial precedents and the termination of consent decrees that impede the United States’ policy of encouraging civil commitment of individuals with mental illness who pose risks to themselves or the public or are living on the streets and cannot care for themselves in appropriate facilities for appropriate periods of time; and

It helps to know what a consent decree is. Basically, it's when the DOJ has found a state, county, or city's law enforcement violating civil rights and demands changes, then oversees the reform of the cops. Removing those gives the cops free reign to violate civil rights with no accountability.

And the stated new policy of the United States is now to incarcerate more, faster, longer.

implementation of maximally flexible civil commitment, 

To quote Dick Cheney: "We also have to work, though, sort of the dark side, ... A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly, without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available" like less lawyer involvement, less Miranda, less explanation of what people are being told to sign.

The declaration of Independence had a clause in it about inalienable rights: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. I had to look up what inalienable means. It a legal term meaning what cannot be signed away. 

Must I continue? It's about the diversion of funds from those Trump doesn't like. It's his MO.

Has HUD gotten more money to provide regular rental type housing, or increased section 8 funds? Not that I know of. Section 8 may very well get gutted to provide for the building of incarceration facilities.

Has funding for mental health been increased, or will the Medicaid cut money go toward Alligator Bedlams?

It's a serious political divide type thing.

Side One: We should get more taxes from the rich to help people with affordable housing and mental health.
Side Two: Socialism!!! Socialism!!!
Side Three: Let's divert the allocated housing funds and Medicaid for prisons and internment camps.
Side Two: HELL YEAH!!!

The reason I posted the video in the OP was because I figured the way Brittany Page went through it was better than I could. Maybe re-watch that.

Something that Ms Page did not cite is from ACLU

 
Scout Katovich, senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union’s Trone Center for Justice and Equality, issued the following statement in response to the executive order:
“From the so-called ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ that will strip health care from millions to this dangerous executive order, every action this administration takes displays remarkable disdain for the rights and dignity of vulnerable people.
“Pushing people into locked institutions and forcing treatment won’t solve homelessness or support people with disabilities. The exact opposite is true – institutions are dangerous and deadly, and forced treatment doesn’t work. We need safe, decent, and affordable housing as well as equal access to medical care and voluntary, community-based mental health and evidence-based substance use treatment from trusted providers. But instead of investing in these proven solutions, President Trump is blaming individuals for systemic failures and doubling down on policies that punish people with nowhere else to go – all after signing a law that decimates Medicaid, the number one payer for addiction and mental health services.
“Homelessness is a policy failure. Weaponizing federal funding to fuel cruel and ineffective approaches to homelessness won’t solve this crisis.”
 

[putnam6]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7427255/

I think our way works better than Prison. It's the same until you choose where they go.

While we also want them off the streets we dont want them going back to the streets once they fake it enough to get released from jail. Which is what "jail first" does. 

You'd be surprised what happens if you give them an appartment to lose.

And we didn't come up with our method. Houston, Texas came up with it. We carbon copied what they did. We have taken 33% off the streets since 2021, which dropped us from 270,000 in 2021 to 180,000 in 2025
(Covid contributed). Just like happened in Houston. Housing first works. 

And Trump is "Satan" because he ignores the results in Houston or California, and would rather throw them in a violent fucking lord of the flies recidivism factory.  

He better do something about the drugs that flow through our correctional facilities through connected cartel and aryan nation people.

In California, they use "Fire Camp" and hope they can shove it far enough up their ass. But the cartels just bribe guards and get it directly.  Theyll come out more addicted sometimes. 

Prison as an answer to the drug addiction that fuels homelessness is a joke, and it seems like Trump just wants to treat poor people poorly.  

I honestly think he'll next move to build another facility specifically to accommodate the homeless people the local police start arresting for having nowhere to go... because they'd still rather get high than try at life. 

And while that's sad and unsightly, his solution just  takes it out of social service hands and gives it to police. It removes the compassion and says, "you can enter treatment by attending 12 step meetings in prison."

And sorry to cite scripture, it's just funny because Trump was a quasi-savior to the sanctity concerned Christian, and he is so very far from a Christian it's laughable. Thus "Apostate Church." 

You could actually argue his "core personality," meaning his service of self and especially his will to power, is purely satanic, or at least Machievelian.

Like, didn't Lucifer take up these prideful stands, act like a constant martyr, and demand you throw him out? And then build an army of a following in line with opposing his adversary?

Like what would Satan Do?

"Okay, my opposition wants me to be nicer to iimmigrants. Hmmmm..I know, I'll send Vietnamese people to Sudan just to really stick it in that they can't control me." 

Just a textbook Personality of Satan move. 

Though saying he was in bed with Satan was actually a reference to the Season Premier of South Park, but now that it's mentioned...

Well, if I wanted a sermon on Sunday, I got one...

Sounds as if Trump is going to round up all the homeless and throw them all in thier local jails and then convict them for vagrancy and give them ALL 20-year sentences in Angola 

First of all, in all our local metro counties, our jails are already fairly full. Overall estimates show our American jails are generally  70% capacity.

Trump couldn't incarcerate them all if he wanted to; it's not physically possible, no way could he cram California's estimated 125,000 + unsheltered homeless into California's penal system.
 
This just gives the state, county, and city officials a way to sort through and hopefully assign them proper help and assistance

Whatever does or doesn't happen will be based on the state and local governments' do with this new authority. 

Just because you can incarcerate someone doesn't mean you can hold someone 

And for the record, Im not a fan of the EO because of its lack of specifics as much as anything.

Is there any doubt that Trump occasionally throws shit out there and says let them chew on this and does something completely unrelated

[andy06shake]

It sounds to me like more federally paid, unidentified, masked, armed, bounty hunters will be in our towns right alongside the ones working for mass deportations.

Well, you're all armed to the teeth, specifically to protect yourselves from federal interference.
 
First, they'll go after the undocumented and those deemed "illegal."

You're witnessing that process unfold right now.

Next, it'll be the homeless and working poor, targeted, removed, or annihilated simply for existing.

Then, I imagine, they'll come for the gay and trans communities.
 
So when do you think the average Joe will get a knock at the door, or be picked up off the street on his way to work?
 
They might as well hand these people brown shirts and jackboots already.

[putnam6]

And then it will be those in debt,
Then those below a certain IQ,
Then it will be the gingers, and
Then the left-handers 

 Hell,we might have police at hospitals taking babies and putting them in jail with hardened criminals

ffs wcswnffb

[Vermilion]

Well, you're all armed to the teeth, specifically to protect yourselves from federal interference.
 
First, they'll go after the undocumented and those deemed "illegal."

You're witnessing that process unfold right now.

Next, it'll be the homeless and working poor, targeted, removed, or annihilated simply for existing.

Then, I imagine, they'll come for the gay and trans communities.
 
So when do you think the average Joe will get a knock at the door, or be picked up off the street on his way to work?
 
They might as well hand these people brown shirts and jackboots already.

 Elite police squad to monitor anti-migrant posts on social media
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...-migrants/
It’s almost like you’re projecting.
Misery loves company?

[Bootless]

Well, you're all armed to the teeth, specifically to protect yourselves from federal interference.
 
First, they'll go after the undocumented and those deemed "illegal."

You're witnessing that process unfold right now.

Next, it'll be the homeless and working poor, targeted, removed, or annihilated simply for existing.

Then, I imagine, they'll come for the gay and trans communities.
 
So when do you think the average Joe will get a knock at the door, or be picked up off the street on his way to work?
 
They might as well hand these people brown shirts and jackboots already.

At the risk of thread drift, I would say that the firearm manufacturing lobby has succeeded in a propaganda campaign about the 2nd Amendment. The words "so that this government that we freaking busted our assess and brains on, and spent countless sleepless nights hammering out may be overthrown at the drop of a hat ..." just aren't in the words of the 2nd.

First they came for the immigrants
then they came for the indigent
then they came for the LGBTQ+
Then they stripped citizenship
Then they came for the non-citizens
Then they came for the Libs
Then they came for the rest who didn't conform to White Christian Nationalism

Somewhere in that chain there's gonna be some violence.

[andy06shake]

Elite police squad to monitor anti-migrant posts on social media
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/202...-migrants/
It’s almost like you’re projecting.
Misery loves company?

It's illegal to spread false information and racist hate-filled posts here in the UK, considering what happened last summer.

So if Gammon wish to project such online, and try and cause chaos once again by destroying their own towns and streets.

Or spreading lies about people in an attempt to cause violence and/or stir up racial hatred.

Police should have a heads-up on what's going to happen next.

And as if they dont monitor just about everything online anyway. 

This is nothing new, to be honest, and most likely prudent.

Here is one of the ""anti-migrant posts"" by the looks of it. LoL 



Just to add, the link you provided wants an email address or subscription.