The never ending question, the Giza pyramids

[Hanslune]

We shall assume the Ancient Egyptians did not build the pyramids. One day they walked out of the drying Sahara, somewhere circa 4,500 BCE, and found all those building: all the pyramids, all the granite, limestone and sandstone structure and megalithic temples from one end of the Nile to the other, all the fantastic stone vases and statues too all just sitting there not a soul around. 

So, what is the evidence that the fringe claims it has, that any of these objects or constructions predated 4,500BCE and what evidence do we have for the mysterious builders like we do for the other cultures in the Nile valley going back 40,000 years?

[SurferSoul]

I was under the impression that it is generally accepted that many of the vases are pre-dynastic. That they were heirlooms? 

What other cultures do you speak of going back 40,000 years in the Nile Valley? I would like to learn more about these? 

Also I’m sure you are aware that the erosion of the Sphinx enclosure, indicates erosion from rain fall and lots of it. The era when this would have occurred is around 10,000bc from memory. Also some astrological alinements have some claiming the sites are much older than accepted.
Whatever the Sphinx was originally, clearly it didn’t have the out of proportion human head. Which must have been carved at a later date. As it’s tiny and looks silly in comparison to the body.

[SurferSoul]

P.S If you’re so sure of the official narrative being 100% correct, why do you wish to bring it up for debate? What is there to discuss?

[midicon]

P.S If you’re so sure of the official narrative being 100% correct, why do you wish to bring it up for debate? What is there to discuss?

Perhaps an interesting discussion might be had about the monumental stupidity and absolute waste of resources regarding building it.

And why such clever people with mathematics, engineering and logistical skills would have been party to that nonsense.

[SurferSoul]

I don’t think it was stupid or a waste of resources, moreover it’s a testament to:

The engineering, logistical and mathematics skills of the people who built such. One of the few remaining wonders of the world no less.

[midicon]

I don’t think it was stupid or a waste of resources, moreover it’s a testament to:

The engineering, logistical and mathematics skills of the people who built such. One of the few remaining wonders of the world no less.

I got to thinking (after I posted) about the Gothic cathedrals and such like. Do I regard them in the same light?

I'll have to think on it lol.

[quintessentone]

We shall assume the Ancient Egyptians did not build the pyramids. One day they walked out of the drying Sahara, somewhere circa 4,500 BCE, and found all those building: all the pyramids, all the granite, limestone and sandstone structure and megalithic temples from one end of the Nile to the other, all the fantastic stone vases and statues too all just sitting there not a soul around. 

So, what is the evidence that the fringe claims it has, that any of these objects or constructions predated 4,500BCE and what evidence do we have for the mysterious builders like we do for the other cultures in the Nile valley going back 40,000 years?

What evidence do we have, worldwide?

AI:

"While there's no single, globally recognized "40,000-year-old stone structure" in the way that Stonehenge or Göbekli Tepe is, there are numerous finds of 40,000-year-old stone tools and artifacts that suggest early human occupation and the use of stone for various purposes. These include stone tools found in rainforests, cave art, and evidence of human habitation in various regions, indicating a wide range of human activities during this period."

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/g...-83613665/



I am of the belief that they used leverage and sledges to move large stones along wetted paths to build the pyramids.

As for dating:

AI: "Key Differences:

• Relative dating: Provides a chronological order (earlier, later), but not a specific date. 
  

• Absolute dating: Provides a specific date or age, often within a certain margin of error." 
  

[KKLoco]

They levitated the stones through the use of sound. This is what is said around the world regarding these megalithic structures. The ancients were far more advanced than us when it came to using earth materials. Yes, today we would call it magic.

Comparing Gobekli Tepi to the pyramids on the Giza Plateau, is like comparing a kindergartener to Albert Einstein. While the 3d reliefs are difficult to do, they do not compare whatsoever to the Giza Plateau.

[midicon]

They levitated the stones through the use of sound. This is what is said around the world regarding these megalithic structures. The ancients were far more advanced than us when it came to using earth materials. Yes, today we would call it magic.

Comparing Gobekli Tepi to the pyramids on the Giza Plateau, is like comparing a kindergartener to Albert Einstein. While the 3d reliefs are difficult to do, they do not compare whatsoever to the Giza Plateau.

I think the idea of 'using sound' comes from the beating of drums or chanting so that the workers could pull in unison.

[quintessentone]

They levitated the stones through the use of sound. This is what is said around the world regarding these megalithic structures. The ancients were far more advanced than us when it came to using earth materials. Yes, today we would call it magic.

Comparing Gobekli Tepi to the pyramids on the Giza Plateau, is like comparing a kindergartener to Albert Einstein. While the 3d reliefs are difficult to do, they do not compare whatsoever to the Giza Plateau.

Not if one believes they all used leverage and sledging as the means of building these structures. Otherwise, carry on with make believe theories.