The helicopter of ancient Egypt

[Hanslune]

Maybe it’s just overlapping carvings. Maybe...

But what are the odds of those random scratches just happen to look like a modern helicopter, a tank, and a submarine... all neatly lined up like an ancient military parade.  

What sort of parade has a submarine, helicopter and a 'tank'. Do you think the word, 'look' resemble a trireme? 
Right next to palimpsest. https://i.imgur.com/yTYbPT1.png, and IT then the inscription continues  https://i.imgur.com/eS7N4tz.png- have you ever noted that the fringe never pays any attention to what is said before and after "IT'. As a matter of fact they ignore the entire temple and hundreds of other messages left there. Why? https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...e=6911EED4

https://scontent-sea5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...e=6911E77D. Why is the a bird in the parade? [img]<a href="https://imgur.com/kEsXHRb"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/kEsXHRb.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>[/img]What are the other odd symbols suppose to be?

[rickymouse]

I don't think the woman in the video is correct because being she is in the field, she would be kind of blackballed as a conspiracy nut if she were to come out and say the symbols were actually what they appear to be.

Archeology is a field where you have to be in tune with the consensus of the time, Lots of archeologists have lost their credibility for going against accepted interpretation.  I know some people personally that have gone to some sites in India and other countries that are experts in the field, and it seems like those sites that do not fit the norm in the field of Archeology are rarely mentioned in the field of Archeology.  I know some people who have done extensive traveling to sites and they made movies about what they found, and one even had his own TV show.  Nice guys, and they just showed the evidence they found and some were experts in the fields.  

Always remember, the winner usually writes the history.

I do not believe what that woman is saying, she is not going to say things that will limit her from working in her field.  Is it a Helicoptor?  Don't know, but her story does not hold up.  People back in those times were excellent at working with stone in that area, they could have sanded it flat and rewritten it to match what they wanted.  She said patching it with plaster...it does not appear to be a patch job, the flow of the lines are like it was made that way on the Helicopter.   the ship....yes, that looks like it could have been altered long ago, and the thing on the bottom, looks like it is not altered either.  I do not know about the flying disk, that could have been altered...I don't actually think that was a flying disk in the first place.  So basically only a few things look to be altered

That does not mean the Helicoptor image is a helicopter, who knows what they were trying to make a picture of.  And the wood bird, it was just a wood carving of a bird someone made.  I have rocks I found here that were ground to shapes by whomever was here before Europeans came here.  Native Americans made stone tools, and some of them look like animals, birds, and fish parts or whole animals.  Even have one that looks like the shape of a hand that would have probably been lashed to a handle, and my Icon here that was carved to look like some animal, out of a huge marrow bone probably from some big animal.

Some of the common rocks in the fields of Italy, the sculpture capital of the world, were ground or chisseled for practice by people who wanted to be sculptures.  A friend of mine who came to America when he was young from Italy, said some of the farm fields were full of poor quality stones back when he was young in the late thirties to early forties.  They would toss them in the ground and bury them if they were not very good or something.  He said some were pretty deep when they plowed the fields and they tossed them on the rock piles on side of the field.  Artists have to practice, seems there were lots of guys in Italy that worked with stone.  A lot of the clay layer was removed to make pottery too, which means it would result in a lot of sand areas where there was once green. Clay pots could deter bacteria growth if food was stored in them, the original way was to coat food in clay, then quickly fire it and it would preserve it before the clay pots became popular.

Did a lot of research on ancient stuff in the past, and the same practices seemed to be used in much of the world.  Now, we make cat litter out of clay, and we are running out of the best deposits of that kind of clay.  Dishes are made out of plastic and glass now, I guess you can't make cat litter from those.

[Hanslune]

"That does not mean the Helicoptor image is a helicopter, who knows what they were trying to make a picture of.  And the wood bird, it was just a wood carving of a bird someone made."  

They aren't pictures of things they are parts of hieroglyphs, language, that very vaguely look like something, while ignoring all the writing in the entire temple . The Temple of Seti I was begun by Seti I around 1314 BCE, and completed by his son, Ramesses II, around 1304 BCE. I'm extremely skeptical that such modern - to us - equipment was running around Egypt - and why the artist of Egypt would botch them so badly and why aliens or the much beloved 'advanced civilization' was using such outdated equipment  - and of course if you know anything about their writing the idea is a bit silly. You can form calligrams in English also but we don't think they are 'images'

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It's all rather sad that there are 'grown up' people who believe the ancient Egyptians had helicopters.

[imitator]

On the other hand, what are the odds that in an important religious monument (something like the Notre-Dame Cathedral) that the king would have them change ONE of several identical inscriptions to gibberish?

Because those extra signs would render the "Defender against the nine bows" section into total gibberish where words are partly spelled out and then "ufo" or "plane" or "helicopter" just dropped in before the text continues with rest of the phrase.

Why put gibberish into a temple -- and on the top of a door post?

And if you wanted to write about UFOs/helicopters, you're the king.  You can put whatever you like wherever you want it to go.  If you wanted to talk about that, why not put it on a big wall (as they did with all their important events) and write a lot of text about it (like they did for battles and tribute brought and major expeditions) explaining what happened and why the king handled it so bravely and magnificently (as he handled all those other situations he had written about his reign)?

Why didn’t he carve it on a wall?
Maybe that wall’s in the Smithsonian, maybe it’s still buried under the sand, or maybe it’s part of someone’s fireplace in Cairo by now.

Who says every message... or piece of ancient tech had to go on a massive wall?

It seems every time we find something that doesn’t fit neatly into our timeline, we explain it away until someone finally proves it meant more. Linear B was gibberish once. So were Mayan glyphs. Even hieroglyphs were just bird drawings until the Rosetta Stone showed up.

When te Antikythera Mechanism was first found, everyone said it was impossible, gibberish art... too complex for the ancient world. Turns out it was a 2,000-year-old analog computer.

Could be overlapping carvings... or maybe not.
I’m not saying Seti had an air force… but I’m also not ruling out that the top of that temple was the first helipad. 

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Why didn’t he carve it on a wall?
Maybe that wall’s in the Smithsonian, maybe it’s still buried under the sand, or maybe it’s part of someone’s fireplace in Cairo by now.

Who says every message... or piece of ancient tech had to go on a massive wall?

It seems every time we find something that doesn’t fit neatly into our timeline, we explain it away until someone finally proves it meant more. Linear B was gibberish once. So were Mayan glyphs. Even hieroglyphs were just bird drawings until the Rosetta Stone showed up.

When te Antikythera Mechanism was first found, everyone said it was impossible, gibberish art... too complex for the ancient world. Turns out it was a 2,000-year-old analog computer.

Could be overlapping carvings... or maybe not.
I’m not saying Seti had an air force… but I’m also not ruling out that the top of that temple was the first helipad. 

The Antikythera Mechanism is a far cry from a helicopter and really no more than a system of interlocking gears designed to represent the movement of stars and planets.

Great innovation that it was from a mathematically inclined genius type, it was no helicopter lol.

[Unknownparadox]

It's all rather sad that there are 'grown up' people who believe the ancient Egyptians had helicopters.

I find it sad there are "grown up" people "well educated" people. Telling the world, the pyramids were build by hand. Using hand made tools, hand made ropes, and trees for rollers. I have never been to Egypt, but from what pictures I have seen, the place doesn't look to be covered in forest. Although the same people tell us it was a forest some 10,000 years ago. But that's a little to early for the pyramids.

But never mind all that stupid shit. The math on it doesn't add up.

We will use the 30 years estimate to build the great pyramid. That works out to be 10,950 days. There is estimated 2.3 million blocks in it. So 2.3 million ÷ 10,950 = 2,100 blocks of stone cut shaped and set in place every day, for 30 years strait. This also includes ramp building and ramp deconstruction. With a estimated 20 to 25 thousand workers. So 25,000 ÷ 2,100 = 11.9 people per stone.

So 11.9 people per 2.5 ton average stone, constructed ramps, deconstructed ramps, cut stone, shaped stone, set stone, cut trees, made rollers, made ropes, made tools, grew food, raised animals/hunted, cooked, delivered water. And I am sure I have missed a few jobs.

It's no wonder the rich are so pissed off at today's work force.

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I find it sad there are "grown up" people "well educated" people. Telling the world, the pyramids were build by hand. Using hand made tools, hand made ropes, and trees for rollers. I have never been to Egypt, but from what pictures I have seen, the place doesn't look to be covered in forest. Although the same people tell us it was a forest some 10,000 years ago. But that's a little to early for the pyramids.

But never mind all that stupid shit. The math on it doesn't add up.

We will use the 30 years estimate to build the great pyramid. That works out to be 10,950 days. There is estimated 2.3 million blocks in it. So 2.3 million ÷ 10,950 = 2,100 blocks of stone cut shaped and set in place every day, for 30 years strait. This also includes ramp building and ramp deconstruction. With a estimated 20 to 25 thousand workers. So 25,000 ÷ 2,100 = 11.9 people per stone.

So 11.9 people per 2.5 ton average stone, constructed ramps, deconstructed ramps, cut stone, shaped stone, set stone, cut trees, made rollers, made ropes, made tools, grew food, raised animals/hunted, cooked, delivered water. And I am sure I have missed a few jobs.

It's no wonder the rich are so pissed off at today's work force.

I'm pretty sure there are not 2.3 million blocks in the Great Pyramid. There is plenty of rubble and back fill in there, plus smaller more foughly shaped blocks. I have no doubt it was a massive national undertaking.

Those people had plenty of skill and experience at moving large stones. We don't know the particular techniques and what technology the Egyptians had but they had machines and tools, just not like we have today. Not everything is primitive, pulley wheels and such were available. 

Most of those stones didn't travel far either. They came from the Sphinx enclosure.

But hey ho, they had helicopters lol.

[Unknownparadox]

I'm pretty sure there are not 2.3 million blocks in the Great Pyramid. There is plenty of rubble and back fill in there, plus smaller more foughly shaped blocks. I have no doubt it was a massive national undertaking.

Those people had plenty of skill and experience at moving large stones. We don't know the particular techniques and what technology the Egyptians had but they had machines and tools, just not like we have today. Not everything is primitive, pulley wheels and such were available. 

Most of those stones didn't travel far either. They came from the Sphinx enclosure.

But hey ho, they had helicopters lol.

Do you care elaborate of what magical machines they had? I don't care how much experience you have cutting stone or moving stone. or how close it was. There is no way in hell 25,000 people could have built it in 30 years. 

As in short order. 25,000 would have become 50,000 and so on. Which requires some of the 25,000 to care for the newly and constantly made people. Or do the egg heads not know how nature works? I think there is a thread on that.

https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Meanwhi...in+America

Oh and I never said they had helicopters. What I said was. 

I find it sad there are "grown up" people "well educated" people. Telling the world, the pyramids were build by hand. Using hand made tools, hand made ropes, and trees for rollers. I have never been to Egypt, but from what pictures I have seen, the place doesn't look to be covered in forest. Although the same people tell us it was a forest some 10,000 years ago. But that's a little to early for the pyramids.

Which translates to. It is impossible for that small a work force to do that much work. In the middle of a desert. Where staying alive is a challenge, even if you are living on a river bank.

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Herodotus mentioned that machines were used in the building of the pyramids. Pulleys, ropes, counterweights, that sort of stuff.

Plenty of food back then too with the Nile flooding twice a year.

No one knows the details or methods used but it was done. A great feat of logistics and planning. They had plenty of experience too. (see earlier failed attempts}

You really think they had helicopters back then?

ETA.

Staying alive might not have been much of a challenge back then. Egypt has had times of prosperity.