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(04-22-2025, 05:31 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Not entirely BS. There are both good and bad health effects from a vegan diet.
The Impact of a Vegan Diet on Many Aspects of Health: The Overlooked Side of Veganism
Plant-based diets and long-term health: findings from the EPIC-Oxford study
Benefits and Drawbacks of Vegetarian and Vegan Diets: Key Points
Still waiting on your universal origin theory, too...
Never thought this thread would devolve into BS about diet but now I am curious. Am I reading this graph correctly?
Vegetarians have a higher risk of stroke and cervical cancer, and hip fracture than nonvegetarians?
if i am reading it correctly the only area vegetarians 'win' is in stomach cancer, and diabetes really. ?
This is from the second link :)
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Just skimming the thread. Did we ever discover the OPs answer to everything?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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(04-22-2025, 07:16 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Replied in wrong thread.
It's OK this thread is all over the place, your comments will likely be germane in a few more posts...
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....
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(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Just skimming the thread. Did we ever discover the OPs answer to everything?
Irony is OP is probably totally correct.
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(Yesterday, 10:01 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Just skimming the thread. Did we ever discover the OPs answer to everything?
Unfortunately the world will never know because we were deemed too stupid to share it with, lol.
Like they were ever going to share anything when the thread starts with "should I share it with you meat eating Neanderthals?"
I look forward to someday riding a horse as high as that one.
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(04-22-2025, 05:17 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I'm sure we'll have this all sorted out in a couple more pages.
Hey wait, don't vegetarians live longer?
Only when they don't go around evangelizing. ;)
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(Yesterday, 09:35 AM)sahgwa Wrote: Never thought this thread would devolve into BS about diet but now I am curious. Am I reading this graph correctly?
Vegetarians have a higher risk of stroke and cervical cancer, and hip fracture than nonvegetarians?
[Image: https://cdn.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/blobs/7...8-f001.jpg]
if i am reading it correctly the only area vegetarians 'win' is in stomach cancer, and diabetes really. ?
This is from the second link :)
Well, that's two different studies but essentially, yes.
And as they said, it depends on what type of vegetarian they are. Ovo-lacto (eat eggs and milk products) are at less risk than strict vegetarians.
From the 2nd paper:
Vegetarians in the EPIC-Oxford study have a relatively low risk of ischaemic heart disease, diabetes, diverticular disease, kidney stones, cataracts and possibly some cancers, but a relatively high risk of stroke (principally haemorrhagic stroke) and bone fractures, in comparison with meat-eaters. Vegans in EPIC-Oxford have a lower risk of diabetes, diverticular disease and cataracts and a higher risk of fractures, but for other conditions there are insufficient data to draw conclusions.
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(Yesterday, 08:07 AM)Ray1990 Wrote: It can be. A poor flora mix within the gut can also cause it which is going to happen with unbalanced diets. Medications affect this too, basically anything you consume including fizzy drinks.
Upto 1 in 6 have IBS, there's plenty of other diseases of the gut that affects nutritional uptake. These people need balanced diets and supplements.
Then there's actual gut chemistry like the production of enzymes or serotonin which have a massive impact on nutritional uptake.
But yeah I've tested diets, unbalanced diets always show up in blood tests.
I’ve tested out a few health ideas over the years, and went vegan for about 2.5 years.
I started shitting out blood, and my life took a nose dive.
Then, quite councidenally, I got a job moving meat, started eating meat again, and my shit got together a bit better.
I’ve heard the arguments that one can find all the same nutrition in plants, but the problem I see with that, estimating in a general sense, is one has to eat about 3 times as much quantity to get the same value.
If your guts can’t digest food well, and you have acid reflux, that would be a problem with an underlying issue, not meat, IMO.
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(04-22-2025, 07:09 PM)chr0naut Wrote: The second question is, what are the observable and unobserved attributes of the dimensions?
Then throw in quantum mechanics, multiple universe theory within multiple dimensions then with the observer effect we now have one reality created by the observer within one point in time, in one spatial dimension, in one universe, do we not?
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