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(04-11-2026, 06:21 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Distract?
The First Lady just brought this Epstein witch hunt back front and center.
Nothing but the sound of crickets now.
She called their bluff.
The Epstein case involves ongoing legal records, court documents, and government disclosures related to Jeffrey Epstein and associates.
Not a political stunt initiated by the First Lady...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-11-2026, 06:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The Epstein case involves ongoing legal records, court documents, and government disclosures related to Jeffrey Epstein and associates.
Not a political stunt initiated by the First Lady...
You wanted this thing to blow up for justice and now the “victims” can testify under oath in front of congress.
Why is that a bad thing?
I’m getting mixed signals from the pro-witch hunt crowd.
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(04-11-2026, 06:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The Epstein case involves ongoing legal records, court documents, and government disclosures related to Jeffrey Epstein and associates.
Not a political stunt initiated by the First Lady...
Indeed, and it was Epstein that told Wolff that she was in that 'circle'. I believe her when she says she didn't know what was going on within that extended circle of model and child traffickers as many of the Epstein survivors also didn't know or understand what was going on. Whether or not she had a relationship with Epstein, I would think unlikely because she would have been too old at the time for his liking, just speculating.
I'm not sure why she is dodging Wolff's lawsuit against her if everything is a lie.
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"Biographer Michael Wolff claims that in tapes he recorded, Jeffrey Epstein alleged that Donald Trump first slept with Melania Trump aboard his private jet, nicknamed the 'Lolita Express,' and that Trump liked to "f***" his friends' wives. Wolff also stated that Epstein "knew" Melania well and that she was "very involved" in his social circle before she met her husband, asserting that the model agent who introduced them, Paolo Zampolli, had ties to both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
However, these claims are disputed and denied: - Melania Trump has categorically denied ever having a relationship with Epstein or that he introduced her to Trump, stating she met him by chance at a New York City party in 1998.
- The White House has strongly rejected Wolff's allegations, with Communications Director Steven Cheung calling Wolff a "lying sack of sh*t" and a fraud.
- Epstein himself had previously sent an email suggesting he was present when the couple met, but the document's authenticity and context remain a subject of legal and public contention."
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/melania-...er-8964530
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(04-11-2026, 07:01 AM)Vermilion Wrote: You wanted this thing to blow up for justice
That parts certanly true...
My feelings on the matter are rather plain and have been repeated on numerous occasions.
But one last time for those hard of hearing or standing at the back.
"Fiat justitia ruat caelum"
And i don't care which side of the political aisle or pond the guilty happen to land...
Justice for the victims...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-11-2026, 07:11 AM)andy06shake Wrote: That parts certanly true...
My feelings on the matter are rather plain and have been repeated on numerous occasions.
But one last time for those hard of hearing or standing at the back. 
"Fiat justitia ruat caelum"
And i don't care which side of the political aisle or pond the guilty happen to land...
Justice for the victims...
So we agree they should go in front of congress, under oath, and name names and tell their stories.
Do you think they’ll actually do it, or just keep doing more virtue signaling press conferences and Super Bowl ads?
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(04-11-2026, 07:20 AM)Vermilion Wrote: So we agree they should go in front of congress, under oath, and name names and tell their stories.
Do you think they’ll actually do it, or just keep doing more virtue signaling press conferences and Super Bowl ads?
Dont try to put words in my mouth, please.
Many of his victims have come forward, but not all are willing or able to testify publicly.
Down to a multitude of different reasons, ranging from severe trauma to PTSD.
Or fear of public exposure, and concern for their or their families' personal safety or harassment.
Some of them have reached private settlements that include confidentiality clauses, or they want to avoid reliving experiences in public.
Others may not even be subpoenaed or contacted by Congress.
And several of the victims have testified or spoken publicly.
But their participation varies depending on individual circumstances.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-11-2026, 07:20 AM)Vermilion Wrote: So we agree they should go in front of congress, under oath, and name names and tell their stories.
Do you think they’ll actually do it, or just keep doing more virtue signaling press conferences and Super Bowl ads?
The survivors already named names to the bi-partisan group including MTG and we all see what happened to her.
The Epstein, greedy elitist and warmonger classses are running your government in a lawless manner and now Trump is pardoning anyone he allowed to come within 10 feet of the White House (figuratively speaking). It's a cover-up and he is a pedophile protector, which is disgusting.
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(04-11-2026, 07:38 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Dont try to put words in my mouth, please.
Many of his victims have come forward, but not all are willing or able to testify publicly.
Down to a multitude of different reasons, ranging from severe trauma to PTSD.
Or fear of public exposure, and concern for their or their families' personal safety or harassment.
Some of them have reached private settlements that include confidentiality clauses, or they want to avoid reliving experiences in public.
Others may not even be subpoenaed or contacted by Congress.
And several of the victims have testified or spoken publicly.
But their participation varies depending on individual circumstances.
All those things are obvious but it didn’t answer my question.
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(04-11-2026, 08:59 AM)Vermilion Wrote: All those things are obvious but it didn’t answer my question.
Then provisionally yes.
Depending on their mental capacity.
And preference to do so willingly and of their own accord.
But Congress cannot convict private citizens of crimes or jail them.
That power belongs to your judicial branch...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-11-2026, 09:04 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Then provisionally yes.
Depending on their mental capacity.
And preference to do so willingly and of their own accord.
But Congress cannot convict private citizens of crimes or jail them.
That power belongs to your judicial branch...
There have been consequences over here for those involved with Epstein, even a Royal and a Lord.
Over the Pond for US people? Nothing.
Says it all.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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