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Release All Files! - Part 1
(12-27-2025, 02:34 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Is the current law about the victims.  Or was it more about political theatre knowing much would have to be redacted because of the nature of child porn and protecting victims and using those redactions as false assurances that somehow Trump has an entire workforce of redactors doing his bidding to protect what you want to be a pedo.  Why didn’t the Epstein law state who could do the redacting and who would provide third party oversight.  

Many of the past victims and Epstein prosecutors are still alive.  There is no need to rely on the paper work that many say was supposed be a coverup in the first place.  Using depositions, legislators could literally open up a new and independent investigation.
 
Redactions aren't some new Trump-era trick WallFlowerActive. 

They're legally required in any case involving minors or cooperating witnesses.

And your courts have done this for decades under both parties.

So calling that "theater" ignores your victim-protection laws.
 
And yes, living victims and prosecutors could testify.

But as far as I'm aware, your congress isn't a criminal court.
 
You're framing transparency as a plot because it's imperfect.

That doesn't make it a hoax.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(12-27-2025, 02:41 PM)quintessentone Wrote: How can evidence be produced when they won't release all the evidence. How do we know what has become of all the evidence? There is no transparency with your government and their agencies. All I know is that so far two survivors, his ex-wife, and Carroll all accused him of rape - one of which he was convicted, so 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.



Because Trump doesn’t control the “evidence”.  Especially for the last 10 or twenty years.

Hello…. As Vermilion posted.
(12-27-2025, 02:35 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Where is the evidence of the Epstein pedo blackmail scheme and Trump being a part of it?

Over twenty years of an alleged pedo blackmail ring yet none of these agencies and thousands of people found nothing…

DOJ(under numerous presidents)
FBI
SDNY office
SDFL office
Bureau of Prisons
Palm Beach PD
NYPD
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Paris Prosecutor’s Office
French National Police
Palm Beach County Sheriff
Palm Beach County State Attorney
Florida Department of Law Enforcement
U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York
U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida
Florida State Courts
New Mexico Office of the Attorney General
USVI Department of Justice
Virgin Islands PD
Virgin Islands Economic Development Authority
Victims lawyers and investigators
Bank lawyers and investigators

Do you feel duped by the Democrat hoax yet?


Especially when the Biden administration had their chance and obligation if Trump was guilty while they held the White House.  Where the director of the FBI, Comey’s daughter was an Epstein prosecutor.  If they passed on incriminating evidence on Trump, they need to be held accountable.
(12-27-2025, 02:47 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Especially when the Biden administration had their chance and obligation if Trump was guilty while they held the White House.  Where the director of the FBI, Comey’s daughter was an Epstein prosecutor.  If they passed on incriminating evidence on Trump, they need to be held accountable.

Oh - here we go - BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN.

You know "they" have lost the argument when this happens.
(12-27-2025, 02:46 PM)andy06shake Wrote:  
Redactions aren't some new Trump-era trick WallFlowerActive. 



Quote where ever I posted Epstein didn’t have real victims.  In fact, I posted a quick list of recent civil suits won by Epstein victims and posted the comment it was a start.

So.  Shot your false assurance to hell.

Now. Address what was posted.  Lawmakers knew there would be many redactions and are playing political games.  

With cross referencing the numerous investigations into Epstein over decades.  And actual statements by victims.  Do you have proof any of the redactions are somehow protecting Trump. Or any special interest than victims identifies.
(12-27-2025, 02:47 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Because Trump doesn’t control the “evidence”.  Especially for the last 10 or twenty years.

Hello…. As Vermilion posted.


Especially when the Biden administration had their chance and obligation if Trump was guilty while they held the White House.  Where the director of the FBI, Comey’s daughter was an Epstein prosecutor.  If they passed on incriminating evidence on Trump, they need to be held accountable.



So, Biden controlled the evidence but Trump doesn't?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(12-27-2025, 02:52 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Oh - here we go - BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN.

You know "they" have lost the argument when this happens.

 Nope.  Nobody is above the law right.  So if Trump is supposedly guilty, then why would the Biden administration and the FBI under Biden sit on that evidence while trying to throw everything and the kitchen sink law wise at Trump while Biden was in office.
(12-27-2025, 02:26 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I think a lot of people can't handle Trump's lack of ethics, morals and empathy, which I think a leader needs to properly govern for the people in a collaborative manner. Trump is no different in the BS department than the rest of them.

If it is a hoax, release the files as proof that it was a hoax all along. But....nope.

How the hell can you criticize Trump ethically and morally when you support a party that KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY for four years facilitated the trafficking of women and children into prostitution and forced labor?    The true meaning of kettle meet pot

Something you didn’t include is that America is sick and tired of the left’s mindless BS and the gross negligence and ineptness that was on display with the last administration.  So most of us don’t gaf what he says, we’re for once in years getting our country back from all the idiocy.   We’re done with obese men in dresses playing Health Secretary and gay Transportation Secretary’s taking maternity leave during one of if not the biggest transportation crisis the country has ever had.

 So yeah, most of us that actually live here don’t care what he sounds like because he’s running the country how it should be run and not into the ground like the Democrat Party was and is still trying to do.  

Some of ya’s just ain’t getting it.  Yeehaw
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.  
(12-27-2025, 02:56 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Quote where ever I posted Epstein didn’t have real victims.  In fact, I posted a quick list of recent civil suits won by Epstein victims and posted the comment it was a start.

So.  Shot your false assurance to hell.

Now. Address what was posted.  Lawmakers knew there would be many redactions and are playing political games.  

With cross referencing the numerous investigations into Epstein over decades.  And actual statements by victims.  Do you have proof any of the redactions are somehow protecting Trump. Or any special interest than victims identifies.

Yeah, i'm full of holes, unfortunately for you.

Nowhere near as many as your beloved POTUS claims or redactions. 

Yes, lawmakers knew that redactions would happen.

Because again, your laws require them in cases involving minors.

That's not gamesmanship.

It's a baseline legal reality that predates Trump by decades.

Additionally, I'm not here to do your homework or cross-reference anything for you.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(12-27-2025, 02:58 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So, Biden controlled the evidence but Trump doesn't?

Did I post that.  The question is why the Biden administration, the FBI under Comey, and Comey’s daughter as an Epstein prosecutor sit on incriminating evidence concerning Trump while trying to throw everything else at him.  Because there is no evidence.  And if they tried to make something, it would be found out.
What matters at this current point in time is Trump willingly signed the Epstein Transparency Act into law

 Russia Russia Russia type arguments don't apply



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