Questions for those who know Jesus

[quintessentone]

It is written that Jesus healed a centurion's servant in Capernaum. There is conversation between them. So either the centurion was the linguist who had learned Aramaic or Jesus spoke Greek.

More questions. Who was Jesus trying to reach? The World or "the lost sheep of Israel"? (Matthew 5:24-26)

Doesn't it stand to reason that a slave wouldn't speak multiple languages?

[Bootless]

Doesn't it stand to reason that a slave wouldn't speak multiple languages?

Sorry if I didn't make it plain. The centurion was speaking to Jesus in the story, not the servant.

Educated slaves (captured in war) were often tasked with tutoring the children of the victorious in battle.

[andy06shake]

Would it be an evil thing to think that Jesus could have been mistaken about some things?

or

Is missing the mark (actual literal Greek meaning of sin) a sin?

No.

It's not evil to question religious beliefs.

As to the second question, i dont have a clue.

[quintessentone]

Sorry if I didn't make it plain. The centurion was speaking to Jesus in the story, not the servant.

Educated slaves (captured in war) were often tasked with tutoring the children of the victorious in battle.

No, my fault, I read it wrong...long day.

It is written that Jesus' ministry was accessible to a wide range of nationalities, whether or not they understood his ministry in one language, or he knew another language's word here and a phrase there to get his message across, is not fully known.

As for the Centurian speaking with Jesus, that's an interesting question as to which language they would have been speaking. It could have been a mix of two languages perhaps with hand gestures and/or drawings in the sand (?) It's all guesswork in that regard. The question is who gained most by speaking multiple languages, and I would say that would be Jesus.

[UltraBudgie]

According to Christian Canon, speaking in tongues came 40 days after Jesus left, so no speaking in tongues for him.

Well there is also this in Christian Canon:

Acts 26:14-15

And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

So he spoke to Paul in Hebrew, either by tongues or native, and not Greek. Which Paul did speak:

Acts 21:37

And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?

Hohoho snarky guardsman...

[Bootless]

Well there is also this in Christian Canon:

Acts 26:14-15

So he spoke to Paul in Hebrew, either by tongues or native, and not Greek. Which Paul did speak:

Acts 21:37

Hohoho snarky guardsman...

I'm looking at Acts 26:14 NIV. It says...I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic.*"
*footnote: Hebrew.

Now I'm looking at Wikipedia: Acts of the Apostles.
Unknown author, written either 80–90 AD or 110–120 AD.
Notice that either dating is post AD 70.

Mishnaic Hebrew is found primarily from the first to the fourth centuries, corresponding to the Roman period after the destruction of the Second Temple in the Siege of Jerusalem (70 CE).

Mishnaic Hebrew

I read a thing once, Jewish writing, wherein Moses was shown a vision of Rabbi Akiva adding crowns to the Hebrew symbols (letters?). When Moses asked what was going on the answer was something like "That's adding meanings"

This was an explanation of how the Masoretic script came to be. Or something like that.

So question, in the Canonical Matthew Jesus says "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished." Matthew 5:18 ASV.

Do you think that is referring to the Masoretic text or the LXX or some other text?

[UltraBudgie]

I'm looking at Acts 26:14 NIV. It says...I heard a voice saying to me in Aramaic.*"
*footnote: Hebrew.

yes you are correct! good catch. "the hebrew dialect" here refers to chaldee hebrew (aramaic).

Now I'm looking at Wikipedia: Acts of the Apostles.
Unknown author, written either 80–90 AD or 110–120 AD.
Notice that either dating is post AD 70.

I read a thing once, Jewish writing, wherein Moses was shown a vision of Rabbi Akiva adding crowns to the Hebrew symbols (letters?). When Moses asked what was going on the answer was something like "That's adding meanings"

This was an explanation of how the Masoretic script came to be. Or something like that.

So question, in the Canonical Matthew Jesus says "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished." Matthew 5:18 ASV.

Do you think that is referring to the Masoretic text or the LXX or some other text?

that is an entire rabbi hole (hahaha!) with the "extra" bits added. when making a torah scroll, they can be added after the main letters in each section, but they have to be added in sequential order, properly. hmm! that is interesting, isn't it? sort of like an "overlay".

i think the jot or tittle thing is more of a metaphor in it's use, meaning "not one little bit". but you know how with things like that, you've also got to consider taking them literally too...

[Bootless]

yes you are correct! good catch. "the hebrew dialect" here refers to chaldee hebrew (aramaic).


that is an entire rabbi hole (hahaha!) with the "extra" bits added. when making a torah scroll, they can be added after the main letters in each section, but they have to be added in sequential order, properly. hmm! that is interesting, isn't it? sort of like an "overlay".

i think the jot or tittle thing is more of a metaphor in it's use, meaning "not one little bit". but you know how with things like that, you've also got to consider taking them literally too...

I looked up the word  Ἑβραΐς in Strong's Greek, basically means "what Hebrews speak", Jewish (Chaldee) language.

So google search that, got Aramaic

Aramaic served as a language of public life and administration of ancient kingdoms and empires, particularly the Neo-Assyrian Empire, Neo-Babylonian Empire, and Achaemenid Empire, and also as a language of divine worship and religious study within Judaism, Christianity, and Gnosticism. Several modern varieties of Aramaic are still spoken. The modern eastern branch is spoken by Assyrians, Mandeans, and Mizrahi Jews.
...
Biblical Aramaic was used in several sections of the Hebrew Bible, including parts of the books of Daniel and Ezra. Aramaic translation of the Bible is known as the Targum. It was the language of Jesus, who spoke the Galilean dialect during his public ministry, and of the Jerusalem Talmud, Babylonian Talmud, and Zohar. According to the Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 38b), the language spoken by Adam – the first human in the Bible – was Aramaic.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I have the martyr thing in common?

But I'll try this... I've read the Bible enough and enough commentaries on it. 

1) How many languages could he speak, and/or read?

I'm going to go with fluent in three. Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

2) Did he believe that the Firmament was a thing, like as in dome over a flat Earth?

He was in Judea. Judea was an annexation of Rome at the time. So before he was deemed an enemy of the state he probably still adopted the Greco-Roman knowledge of a spherical earth. I mean they had Aristotle by that point.
 

3) or did he perhaps adopt the Grecian notion (Ptolemaic) of Geocentrism?

Im gonna guess probably. Geocentrism wasn't absolute, but I think it was the prevailing version until Copernicus.

4) Do you think that his ideas of heaven influenced his teaching about The Kingdom of Ouranos in any way?

Hebrew had sheol and The World To Come. Greeks had immortality of the soul. Persians had Paradise and Duzakh. There was enough kingdom of Heaven and Hell ideas. I think he actually combined all of the above.

5) What form of government did Jesus consider ideal?

Abrahamic Anarchism?

[andy06shake]

I have the martyr thing in common?

But I'll try this... I've read the Bible enough and enough commentaries on it. 

I'm going to go with fluent in three. Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

He was in Judea. Judea was an annexation of Rome at the time. So before he was deemed an enemy of the state he probably still adopted the Greco-Roman knowledge of a spherical earth. I mean they had Aristotle by that point.
 

Im gonna guess probably. Geocentrism wasn't absolute, but I think it was the prevailing version until Copernicus.

Hebrew had sheol and The World To Come. Greeks had immortality of the soul. Persians had Paradise and Duzakh. There was enough kingdom of Heaven and Hell ideas. I think he actually combined all of the above.

Abrahamic Anarchism?

Slight issue with the last answer, the kingdom of heaven is a monarchy.

"Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven"

"as above, so below" 

Seems to me Jesus would promote monarchic rule here on Earth.

The kicker is that a lot of communists could find inspiration in his ethics.