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#11
(09-18-2025, 05:37 AM)Halfswede Wrote: Even if you filled your car to the brim with explosives, there would be doors and twisted metal somewhere out there after the blast.

Don't try this at home. Smile

What I find strange about the crater is how steep the sides are, as if what made it was traveling at a very high speed and didn't explode.
#12
(09-18-2025, 02:38 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Not really.

Being in an official archive only means the owner of the archive thought it was relevant and should be kept, it doesn't mean they agree with it or that they were the producers, it may even be classified as "baseless speculation" or "hoax".

Is there a real archival record for that video? If there is it should name the producer and (maybe) how they got them.

That’s true...

The video does have an official NARA catalog record:
 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/326996858

It is part of an Air Force collection:
Record Group 341: Records of Headquarters U.S. Air Force (Air Staff)
Series: Moving Images Relating to "The Roswell Reports" Source Data Research Files, 1946–1996 (NAID 566658)

That means the content was examined and preserved by the government.
I’d guess that makes them the producer or at least the final curator.
#13
(09-17-2025, 11:14 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: To make that crater, the ship would have been totally vaporized. Ether from the energy of the impact or the engines detonating. There would be nothing but dust in the air left.



With Earth materials! but not with their matter?! 
hmmm
#14
(09-18-2025, 06:13 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Don't try this at home. Smile

What I find strange about the crater is how steep the sides are, as if what made it was traveling at a very high speed and didn't explode.

That's what I thought. It looks like something just ploughed into the earth and stuck there. Then it was removed, leaving a hole.
#15
It is a question of velocites and energy levels. 

To make that crater, it could be going at interstellar velocities. That would mean it could also be the size of a pea and make that hole in the ground. It would be vaporized on impact.

Now if it crashed and the engines and power source blew up, it could have made that hole if it buried itself on impact. Then the explosion would be so energetic that again it would be virtually vaporized. No small I beams as reported. Just scorched, crunched up, tiny fragments.

While I do not dismiss the crash at all, I do not consider the crater part of it or made by it.

Now if there was a recovery of a crashed ship, why leave the evidence of the hole behind when you already had the equipment to just fill it in already there for the recovery? Smooth it over and nothing to see.
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#16
(09-18-2025, 10:15 AM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: It is a question of velocites and energy levels. 

To make that crater, it could be going at interstellar velocities. That would mean it could also be the size of a pea and make that hole in the ground. It would be vaporized on impact.

Now if it crashed and the engines and power source blew up, it could have made that hole if it buried itself on impact. Then the explosion would be so energetic that again it would be virtually vaporized. No small I beams as reported. Just scorched, crunched up, tiny fragments.

While I do not dismiss the crash at all, I do not consider the crater part of it or made by it.

Now if there was a recovery of a crashed ship, why leave the evidence of the hole behind when you already had the equipment to just fill it in already there for the recovery? Smooth it over and nothing to see.

What about materials science unknown to us? What about 'force fields' that protect the craft but effect the earth with the velocity?
#17
(09-18-2025, 10:15 AM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: It is a question of velocites and energy levels. 

To make that crater, it could be going at interstellar velocities. That would mean it could also be the size of a pea and make that hole in the ground. It would be vaporized on impact.

Now if it crashed and the engines and power source blew up, it could have made that hole if it buried itself on impact. Then the explosion would be so energetic that again it would be virtually vaporized. No small I beams as reported. Just scorched, crunched up, tiny fragments.

While I do not dismiss the crash at all, I do not consider the crater part of it or made by it.

Now if there was a recovery of a crashed ship, why leave the evidence of the hole behind when you already had the equipment to just fill it in already there for the recovery? Smooth it over and nothing to see.

They wouldn't have left the hole behind. I recall reading about the land owner or ranch manager where he was interviewed and said that the government had men scouring the area picking up anything and everything they could find.

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"Mack Brazel was the Ranch Manager for the Fosters at the time of the Roswell crash. He reported finding a large batch of unusual "debris" scattered on the grounds of the Foster ranch. The debris was apparently like nothing he had ever seen before. The nature of the material was so strange that Mack felt compelled to bring pieces of it to Loretta and Floyd Proctor, who owned an adjacent ranch.

In a conversation with this author last year I asked Loretta (still active at 95) what she thought of the debris. I asked her if – over 60 years later – she still believed the debris shown to her to be special. She replied: "Yes." She said that it was not wood, it was not metal. It was not fiberglass nor any type of known material. She said: "I've never have seen anything like it before or since." I then asked, "Loretta, all these years on – with all of the advances in metals and plastics- do you really believe that the material you saw was not from Earth?" She replied without hesitation, "Yes, I really do."

The debris was apparently like nothing Mack had ever seen before either. The nature of the material was strange enough that he felt compelled to bring pieces of it to the Proctors. He also showed it to the owner of Wade Bar, Jesse Wade. Mack was motivated enough by his find to report it the Roswell Sheriff, George Wilcox. Mack also met with Roswell Army Air Field intelligence personnel to relate his discovery. After he was run through the ringer by the military, Mack stated that if he ever found anything at all like that again, that "they are going to have a hard time getting me to say anything about it!" True to his word, he never spoke publicly about the incident again."

(Me: Just saying!)

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#18
(09-18-2025, 08:47 AM)imitator Wrote: That’s true...

The video does have an official NARA catalog record:
 https://catalog.archives.gov/id/326996858

It is part of an Air Force collection:
Record Group 341: Records of Headquarters U.S. Air Force (Air Staff)
Series: Moving Images Relating to "The Roswell Reports" Source Data Research Files, 1946–1996 (NAID 566658)

That means the content was examined and preserved by the government.
I’d guess that makes them the producer or at least the final curator.

Thanks. Thumbup

I was expecting a more "professional" and complete record, a record that would follow the standard for archive records.

For example, they say the creator "compiled or maintained the parent series", it says nothing about the video itself, so we don't know if it was created by the "most recent creator" or if it was created by someone else and added to that series because it contains relevant information.

PS: as an added bonus we get the link to the whole series, with 44 documents:
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/566658
#19
Nice bonus! Thumbup 

Cool, here’s another link: https://www.archives.gov/research/topics...-and-sound

I was going to dig through that to see if I can find any stills of the crash site… because who knows, it could be from something else entirely. I did find more crash related stuff.

But I don’t have time for that right now, maybe later... or someone else can take a stab at it lol.
#20
(09-17-2025, 01:14 PM)imitator Wrote: The internet is buzzing over this clip that some are claiming shows the Roswell crash site:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1...ell_crash/

One commenter jokes: "Pretty big crater for a weather balloon!"

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...125929.jpg]

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...125956.jpg]


These images are from a video that is part of the National Archives’ Moving Images Relating to “The Roswell Reports” Source Data Research Files, 1946–1996 (NAID 566658), created by the U.S. Air Force as part of its investigations into the 1947 Roswell incident.

National Archives and Records Administration
(NARA): Original Video Source: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/326996858

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzj9e1Zw5hU]

It looks like the internet has just rediscovered this video...

Here is a 15 year old clip of it on YouTube, notice it says v.12:
[Video: https://youtu.be/N-yxt9Umgiw?si=PSTcbE0nQepQwIbI]

II love this stuff.   My Bride and me went down to the area to investigate.   We talked with a lot of people including some that were close to the Brazel family.    I believe the scatter field of the crash was so great that particles of the craft were strewn over 1/4- 1/2 of a mile, which, to me, would indicate more of a shallow angle of approach.   There is also some evidence that the craft might have 'skipped'  as a stone on the water.   

Good stuff.   I hope we never give up digging.   I believe this was a genuine crash that the goverment compartmentalized and covered up in the way in which they have always been most equipped.
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