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#51
(07-15-2026, 10:40 AM)andy06shake Wrote: You want there to be a civil war.

But you still refuse to say who you would fight first.

And don't suggest Muslims, because as we have already established.

You don't know any bar the ones you see on GB News.

And again with the stupid "Islamic invasion, Kashmiri gangs raping 1/4 million of our girls" nonsense, with absolutely not one shred of tangible evidence to support your race hate rhetoric.

Clown shoes...

It is an invasion. Also the invaders seem intent on this. Just in on Sky news not GB.................. 

"Eight men have been charged with rape and child sexual abuse offences as part of an alleged grooming gang operating in South Wales, the Crown Prosecution Service has said. 
Those charged are: Shafaq Mohammed, 58, of Birmingham; Syed Mohammad Ashan Taqvi, 65, of Newport; Mohammed Sheikh Abdul Hannan, 54, of Edinburgh; Kevin Lawrence, 54, of Dunoon; Sheikh Mohammed Tahir Ullah, 73, of Newport; Aminur Rahman Chowdhury, 58, of Tottenham, London; Shakeel Babur, 58, of Lancashire; and Murad Ali, 57, of Swansea." https://news.sky.com/story/eight-men-acc...e-13563566

and another also on the front page of Sky news..................... 

"Asylum seekers given lengthy prison sentences for rape of woman on Brighton beach"The woman had been separated from her friends on a night out when two of the men took her behind a beach hut and raped her, while the third went to the location moments later and captured footage of the attack. 

 
Ibrahim Alshafe, 26, from Egypt, and Abdulla Ahmadi, 26, from Iran, had both denied two counts each of raping the woman on 4 October last year. They were found guilty.
The pair were jailed for 21 years each at Hove Crown Court on Wednesday.
Egyptian national Karin Al-Danasurt, 21, was also found guilty of all four counts of rape as a secondary party by encouraging and filming the ordeal." https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seeker...h-13563576
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
#52
(07-15-2026, 11:32 AM)Orby Wrote: It is an invasion. Also the invaders seem intent on this. Just in on Sky news not GB.................. 

"Eight men have been charged with rape and child sexual abuse offences as part of an alleged grooming gang operating in South Wales, the Crown Prosecution Service has said. 
Those charged are: Shafaq Mohammed, 58, of Birmingham; Syed Mohammad Ashan Taqvi, 65, of Newport; Mohammed Sheikh Abdul Hannan, 54, of Edinburgh; Kevin Lawrence, 54, of Dunoon; Sheikh Mohammed Tahir Ullah, 73, of Newport; Aminur Rahman Chowdhury, 58, of Tottenham, London; Shakeel Babur, 58, of Lancashire; and Murad Ali, 57, of Swansea." https://news.sky.com/story/eight-men-acc...e-13563566

and another also on the front page of Sky news..................... 

"Asylum seekers given lengthy prison sentences for rape of woman on Brighton beach"The woman had been separated from her friends on a night out when two of the men took her behind a beach hut and raped her, while the third went to the location moments later and captured footage of the attack. 

 
Ibrahim Alshafe, 26, from Egypt, and Abdulla Ahmadi, 26, from Iran, had both denied two counts each of raping the woman on 4 October last year. They were found guilty.
The pair were jailed for 21 years each at Hove Crown Court on Wednesday.
Egyptian national Karin Al-Danasurt, 21, was also found guilty of all four counts of rape as a secondary party by encouraging and filming the ordeal." https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seeker...h-13563576

So you only know Muslims on TV...check... Lol Lol Lol

Can you do white folk next, or don't you have that channel?

When do you start to demonize our entire race and religion over wrong'yins you see on Sky TV?

And if they have been given lengthy prison sentences for rape.

That sounds like justice in action.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#53
(07-15-2026, 11:36 AM)andy06shake Wrote: So you only know Muslims on TV...check... Lol Lol Lol

Can you do white folk next, or don't you have that channel?

When do you start to demonize our entire race and religion over wrong'yins you see on Sky TV?

And if they have been given lengthy prison sentences for rape.

That sounds like justice in action.

No no no, I don't choose, check the front page today Andy. There are no Eskimos doing the crime, or Rasta's etc. Just them, for whatever reason.
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
#54
(07-15-2026, 11:43 AM)Orby Wrote: No no no, I don't choose, check the front page today Andy. There are no Eskimos doing the crime, or Rasta's etc. Just them, for whatever reason.

But you don't know any Muslims, bar on the smellavision?

Thats some invasion.

You must be rather well hidden.  

I guess they have yet to find their way to "The Shire." Lol
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#55
(07-15-2026, 11:55 AM)andy06shake Wrote: But you don't know any Muslims, bar on the smellavision?

Thats some invasion.

You must be rather well hidden.  

I guess they have yet to find their way to "The Shire." Lol

I know some. In the bosses they are essential. Looked after us well. I'm in the stix but you do see them occasionally, taxis, DPD but that mostly Sikhs. I actually welcome them, the countryside is too white in some ways  and I like a mix, just not an invasion and takeover
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
#56
(07-15-2026, 04:02 PM)Orby Wrote: I know some. In the bosses they are essential. Looked after us well. I'm in the stix but you do see them occasionally, taxis, DPD but that mostly Sikhs. I actually welcome them, the countryside is too white in some ways  and I like a mix, just not an invasion and takeover



I'm in the stix.  Deepest Wiltshire.  Know and work with Muslims.

Where the Hell are you based?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
#57
(07-15-2026, 05:04 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I'm in the stix.  Deepest Wiltshire.  Know and work with Muslims.

Where the Hell are you based?

like I said, in the stix. Central England. We do have muslims too. Lots of trees, cows, chickens, buzzards, sheepies, corn and spuds.
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
#58
(07-15-2026, 04:02 PM)Orby Wrote: I know some. In the bosses they are essential. Looked after us well. I'm in the stix but you do see them occasionally, taxis, DPD but that mostly Sikhs. I actually welcome them, the countryside is too white in some ways  and I like a mix, just not an invasion and takeover

The strangest kind of invasion ive ever heard of.

Working men delivering products and running taxis.

Try having a conversation with one of them.

What's the bet they don't bite and probably sound just like you?

I would welcome them also if they were delivering my stuff and taking me places i wish to go.

How pray tell is that taking over or not integrating?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#59
I am just trying to understand where the increase in violence and death threats to politicians there derive and we must acknowledge facts about violence from all sources without prejudice.

"In October 2020, Islamist terrorism remained the greatest threat to the UK by volume according to Ken McCallum, the Director General of MI5.[sup][38][/sup] A report published in the same year found that of the 43,000 extremists on MI5's watchlist, around nine-tenths of the people on the list are Islamist extremists.[sup][39][/sup] In July 2023, Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary of the United Kingdom, reiterated that Islamic terrorism was the primary domestic threat facing the UK.[sup][40][/sup] Islamic terrorism represented 67% of attacks since 2018, 75% of MI5's caseload, and 64% of those in custody for terrorism-connected offences according to the 2023 CONTEST report.[sup][6][/sup]

 The Independent Reviewer for the government's anti-terror programme (Prevent), Sir William Shawcross, has stated that there was a reluctance to investigate Islamist threats due to fears of being labelled Islamophobic or racist. Instead, staff from the government's anti-terror programme were biased towards tackling far-right threats despite Islamist threats posing a greater risk.[sup][41][/sup] His investigation found that 80% of the Counter Terrorism Police network’s live investigations were Islamist. However, Shawcross found that the majority (51%) of Prevent referrals were for mixed, unstable, or unclear (MUU) ideology concerns, followed by extreme right-wing ideology at 25%, and Islamist-related radicalisation made up only 22% of referrals.[sup][7][/sup] Trevor Phillips, former Chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, argues that the collapse in Islamist referrals from 2019 onwards coincided with a publication of a report from a group of MPs led by Wes Streeting calling for the definition of Islamophobia to be expanded to include "expressions of Muslimness". Previously, Prevent received around 3,500 Islamist referrals a year, making up about 45% of all referrals. However, the number of Islamist referrals collapsed to 1,500 once dozens of local authorities and other bodies, including the Labour Party, adopted the looser definition of Islamophobia. Meanwhile, the number of right-wing referrals remained the same; however, "no ideology" referrals increased rapidly to 2,500, with Philips arguing some of these cases would have previously been categorised as Islamist referrals and been investigated.[sup][42][/sup]
 
In October 2024, Ken McCallum indicated that the terrorist threat trend he was most concerned about was the worsening threat from Al-Qaeda, and in particular from the Islamic State. Roughly 75% of counter terrorist work remained from Islamist threats, although he highlighted that threats were becoming more sophisticated with people consuming both extreme right-wing and Islamist extremist instructional material. Lone individuals radicalised online made up the majority of threats.[sup][43][/sup][sup][44][/sup]
 
In February 2026, two men were sentenced to life imprisonment in the UK for planning an Islamic State-inspired terrorist attack targeting the Jewish community in Manchester. Prosecutors described the plot as potentially "one of the deadliest terrorist attacks ever carried out on British soil." Walid Saadaoui (38) received a minimum of 37 years, and Amar Hussein (52) a minimum of 26 years, for preparing acts of terrorism between December 2023 and May 2024, including attempts to smuggle assault rifles and ammunition into the UK for use in mass shootings in populated Jewish areas. A third defendant, Bilel Saadaoui, was sentenced to six years for failing to report information about the plot. The attack was foiled when an undercover operative, posing as an arms dealer, helped authorities intercept the conspiracy.[sup][45][/sup][sup][46]"[/sup]

[sup]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Kingdom

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02...y-tackled/[/sup]
"The only journey is the one within."
#60
(07-16-2026, 04:31 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I am just trying to understand where the increase in violence and death threats to politicians there derive and we must acknowledge facts about violence from all sources without prejudice.

"In October 2020, Islamist terrorism remained the greatest threat to the UK by volume according to Ken McCallum, the Director General of MI5.[sup][38][/sup] A report published in the same year found that of the 43,000 extremists on MI5's watchlist, around nine-tenths of the people on the list are Islamist extremists.[sup][39][/sup] In July 2023, Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary of the United Kingdom, reiterated that Islamic terrorism was the primary domestic threat facing the UK.[sup][40][/sup] Islamic terrorism represented 67% of attacks since 2018, 75% of MI5's caseload, and 64% of those in custody for terrorism-connected offences according to the 2023 CONTEST report.[sup][6][/sup]

 The Independent Reviewer for the government's anti-terror programme (Prevent), Sir William Shawcross, has stated that there was a reluctance to investigate Islamist threats due to fears of being labelled Islamophobic or racist. Instead, staff from the government's anti-terror programme were biased towards tackling far-right threats despite Islamist threats posing a greater risk.[sup][41][/sup] His investigation found that 80% of the Counter Terrorism Police network’s live investigations were Islamist. However, Shawcross found that the majority (51%) of Prevent referrals were for mixed, unstable, or unclear (MUU) ideology concerns, followed by extreme right-wing ideology at 25%, and Islamist-related radicalisation made up only 22% of referrals.[sup][7][/sup] Trevor Phillips, former Chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, argues that the collapse in Islamist referrals from 2019 onwards coincided with a publication of a report from a group of MPs led by Wes Streeting calling for the definition of Islamophobia to be expanded to include "expressions of Muslimness". Previously, Prevent received around 3,500 Islamist referrals a year, making up about 45% of all referrals. However, the number of Islamist referrals collapsed to 1,500 once dozens of local authorities and other bodies, including the Labour Party, adopted the looser definition of Islamophobia. Meanwhile, the number of right-wing referrals remained the same; however, "no ideology" referrals increased rapidly to 2,500, with Philips arguing some of these cases would have previously been categorised as Islamist referrals and been investigated.[sup][42][/sup]
 
In October 2024, Ken McCallum indicated that the terrorist threat trend he was most concerned about was the worsening threat from Al-Qaeda, and in particular from the Islamic State. Roughly 75% of counter terrorist work remained from Islamist threats, although he highlighted that threats were becoming more sophisticated with people consuming both extreme right-wing and Islamist extremist instructional material. Lone individuals radicalised online made up the majority of threats.[sup][43][/sup][sup][44][/sup]
 
In February 2026, two men were sentenced to life imprisonment in the UK for planning an Islamic State-inspired terrorist attack targeting the Jewish community in Manchester. Prosecutors described the plot as potentially "one of the deadliest terrorist attacks ever carried out on British soil." Walid Saadaoui (38) received a minimum of 37 years, and Amar Hussein (52) a minimum of 26 years, for preparing acts of terrorism between December 2023 and May 2024, including attempts to smuggle assault rifles and ammunition into the UK for use in mass shootings in populated Jewish areas. A third defendant, Bilel Saadaoui, was sentenced to six years for failing to report information about the plot. The attack was foiled when an undercover operative, posing as an arms dealer, helped authorities intercept the conspiracy.[sup][45][/sup][sup][46]"[/sup]

[sup]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_Kingdom

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02...y-tackled/[/sup]

They're related topics, not the same thing.

Most political abuse in the UK happens online.

And it comes from different ideological directions.

Rarely involving terrorism.

Yes, Islamist terrorism has been the UK's largest terrorist threat by MI5's metrics for years.

Two Gulf wars and Afghanistan is apt to draw some ire. 

But that doesn't prove Islamist extremists are driving most threats against MPs.

It's like responding to a discussion about shoplifting by posting murder statistics.

Same country, different crime.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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