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(Yesterday, 03:52 AM)quintessentone Wrote: There is something not quite right there.
Yeah, his name is Nigel, and he's rather ""special.""
Overprivileged racist Gammon clown that he is...
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(Yesterday, 05:05 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Yeah, his name is Nigel, and he's rather ""special.""
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Overprivileged racist Gammon clown that he is...
He wasn't a politician in office at the time and he needed the money for security. Desperate times call for desperate measures when one's government does not care whether you live or die after serving.
LOL Biased much?
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(Yesterday, 05:10 AM)quintessentone Wrote: He wasn't a politician in office at the time and he needed the money for security. Desperate times call for desperate measures when one's government does not care whether you live or die after serving.
LOL Biased much?
Not holding office does not remove accountability.
He was still a major Reform UK figure, president, and their key campaigner.
If someone needs security, there are lawful ways to fund it.
And the argument "he needed the £5 million because the government gave him no security" is a lie.
He did face threats, but there were official security arrangements available.
As to being biased much, against the racist Gammon clowns who wish to see my nation turned into something reminiscent of a 4th Reich, dam right i am.
The only person thats desperate is Farage because he's been caught out bang to rights...
He's about to lose to a bin Quint, and if he somehow prevails, the parliamentary investigations just start all over again.
It's called obfuscation and misdirection, trying to distract from the facts.
He wished to be seen as judged by the people, when it's the law of the land, he will inevitably have to contend with.
I ponder who he learned that trick from?
As to the "one's government does not care whether you live or die after serving", thats just parroting the tripe Farage wants you to swallow...
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(Yesterday, 05:20 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Not holding office does not remove accountability.
He was still a major Reform UK figure, president, and their key campaigner.
If someone needs security, there are lawful ways to fund it.
And the argument "he needed the £5 million because the government gave him no security" is a lie.
He did face threats, but there were official security arrangements available.
As to being biased much, against the racist Gammon clowns who wish to see my nation turned into something reminiscent of a 4th Reich, dam right i am.
The only person thats desperate is Farage because he's been caught out bang to rights...
He's about to lose to a bin Quint, and if he somehow prevails, the parliamentary investigations just start all over again.
It's called obfuscation and misdirection, trying to distract from the facts.
I ponder who he learned that trick from?
Where's your government's accountability for the safety of ex-politicians?
Look what happened to Ann Widdecomb and that was a targeted attack!
I think it's called trying to stay alive in Farage's case.
As for the Reform Party...I see lots and lots of white faces.
As to their policies, I see exact Trump Regime policies...so you may be right about the Reich comment.
https://www.reformparty.uk/policies
"Make Britain Great Again" comes to mind as their new slogan.
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(Yesterday, 05:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Where's your government's accountability for the safety of ex-politicians?
Look what happened to Ann Widdecomb and that was a targeted attack!
I think it's called trying to stay alive in Farage's case.
As for the Reform Party...I see lots and lots of white faces.
As to their policies, I see exact Trump Regime policies...so you may be right about the Reich comment.
https://www.reformparty.uk/policies
Widdecombe's murder is a tragic example of the risks public figures can face.
But it does not automatically prove the government failed on security.
Police are still investigating the motive behind what took place.
None of which justifies Farage receiving £5 million and not declaring it...
If you fail to declare £5 million when you are legally required to, you're probably going to jail.
Or at least thats what would happen to the average Joe...
And trying to dodge a parliamentary inquiry by way of quitting your job, so a by-election can be called, does not exactly scream innocence...
Farage, on the other hand, would probably disagree...
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(Yesterday, 05:43 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Widdecombe's murder is a tragic example of the risks public figures can face.
But it does not automatically prove the government failed on security.
Police are still investigating the motive behind what took place.
None of which justifies Farage receiving £5 million and not declaring it...
If you fail to declare £5 million when you are legally required to, you're probably going to jail.
Or at least thats what would happen to the average Joe...
And trying to dodge a parliamentary inquiry by way of quitting your job, so a by-election can be called, does not exactly scream innocence...
Farage, on the other hand, would probably disagree...
Farage's lawyers say he did nothing illegal.
One thing for sure here, is all this drama is opening many cans of worms for all to see.
"Nigel Farage says questions over his finances are part of ‘coordinated pile-on’
Reform leader says he’s been ‘demonised’ since revelation he received £5m from billionaire before election"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/202...-reform-uk
This demonization is par the course in politics.
"Farage plans to meet with the chair of RAVEC to address concerns regarding the protection of Reform UK politicians, including those who are not MPs. The party has long argued that state-funded security was previously downgraded by approximately 75%, forcing Farage to rely on private donations, such as a £5 million gift from Christopher Harborne, to maintain adequate protection. While Home Office officials insist that security decisions are independent and that all MPs are treated equally, Robert Jenrick and other Reform figures have accused the government of a "dereliction of duty" and political bias. "
https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/07/13/...ror-radar/
While they are at it, it looks like their counterterrorism budget needs a boost.
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(Yesterday, 05:56 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Farage's lawyers say he did nothing illegal.
One thing for sure here, is all this drama is opening many cans of worms for all to see.
"Nigel Farage says questions over his finances are part of ‘coordinated pile-on’
Reform leader says he’s been ‘demonised’ since revelation he received £5m from billionaire before election"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/202...-reform-uk
This demonization is par the course in politics.
"Farage plans to meet with the chair of RAVEC to address concerns regarding the protection of Reform UK politicians, including those who are not MPs. The party has long argued that state-funded security was previously downgraded by approximately 75%, forcing Farage to rely on private donations, such as a £5 million gift from Christopher Harborne, to maintain adequate protection. While Home Office officials insist that security decisions are independent and that all MPs are treated equally, Robert Jenrick and other Reform figures have accused the government of a "dereliction of duty" and political bias. "
https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/07/13/...ror-radar/
While they are at it, it looks like their counterterrorism budget needs a boost.
It's always about more money eh?
Somebody always has their hand out...
The only sure thing i can see in all of this.
If Farage loses his own man-made manufactured to garner public outcry by-election, he's fecked good and proper.
And if he wins, the parliamentary enquiry will be reopened, or begin again...
At the end of the day, he wants the people to judge him as opposed to the law...
Imagine a world where that was the colour of the day?
Because it is not a place i would wish to reside...
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(Yesterday, 06:04 AM)andy06shake Wrote: It's always about more money eh?
Somebody always has their hand out...
The only sure thing i can see in all of this for sure.
If Farage loses his own man-made manufactured to garner public outcry by-election, he's fecked good and proper.
And if he wins, the Parliamentary enquiry will be reopened, or begin again...
At the end of the day, he wants the people to judge him as opposed to the law...
Imagine a world where that was the colour of the day?
Because it is not a place i would wish to reside...
Shouldn't the circumstances and facts be judged? By whom?
Even if Farage is fk'd, he still opened up that can of worms and discussion, and hopefully an investigation, into your government's supposed 'dereliction of duties' as pertains to the security of past politicians.
And the 'dereliction of duties' attributed to your government, as searched online, offers up many different sources.
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(Yesterday, 06:09 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Shouldn't the circumstances and facts be judged? By whom?
Even if Farage is fk'd, he still opened up that can of worms and discussion, and hopefully an investigation, into your government's supposed 'dereliction of duties' as pertains to the security of past politicians.
And the 'dereliction of duties' attributed to your government, as searched online, offers up many different sources.
People are judged here in a court of law, if found to have broken such, not by public opinion...
And your argument kind of mixes the two separate issues.
If there are concerns about security for former politicians.
I agree that those should be investigated on their own merit.
But Farage's situation is not proof of government failure.
Rules around political declarations, security, and accountability exist precisely so the independent bodies and not politicians, or public opinion, can judge the facts.
Controversy does not automatically prove a dereliction of duty.
Additionally i imagine the US has similar concerns about political security.
How many assassination attempts on Trump to date?
I seem to recall Paul Pelosi being attacked with a hammer in his own home, with the attacker looking for his Mrs.
Same gadgie, different tracky really.
Security is based on risk assessment rather than automatically provided to every politician.
The challenge is balancing safety, resources, and civil liberties.
And i think both our nations would get a "must try harder" sticker on that score...
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