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03-18-2026, 08:15 PM
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(03-18-2026, 07:15 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Cool story.
And yet you keep chewing the stuff "for over a year".... 
Quote:Day 2 of patch for me. Not going to lie to you folks, been dealing with long covid since 2021, so memory issues, adhd meds not working, fatigue and worst of all collapsed/restricted nasal cavity/worsened allergies I've breathed better in these 2 days than I have since 2019... not a smoker nevr have been and a 7mg patched has changed everything
Rabies and every 29 famiies of viruses prevented with.
Aren't you going to aslo?
The Role of Nicotine in Healing Long-Covid, MS, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s
The human alpha7 nicotinic acetylcholine receptor is a host target for the rabies virus glycoprotein
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(03-18-2026, 06:37 PM)Knows Wrote: Scientific and health organizations distinguish between the risks of nicotine itself and the carcinogenic compounds found in tobacco products. Whilecigarettes and chewing tobacco carry explicit cancer warnings, FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (NRT) like patches and gum generally do not, as they are not classified as carcinogens. Warning Label Differences- Cigarettes and Chewing Tobacco: These products must carry federally mandated warnings explicitly stating they cause cancer (e.g., mouth, lung, or pancreatic cancer) due to the presence of over 70 known carcinogens like tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs), arsenic, and formaldehyde.
- Nicotine Patches and Gum: As medical products, their labels focus on safety and usage instructions. Standard warnings typically address addiction, heart rate increases, or use during pregnancy, but they do not include "causes cancer" because medicinal nicotine does not contain the toxic tar or combustion byproducts found in tobacco.
Nicotine and Cancer Risk- Not a Known Carcinogen: Major health bodies, including the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), do not classify nicotine as a carcinogen.
- Promoter vs. Cause: While nicotine doesn't start cancer (initiation), some research suggests it may act as a "tumor promoter," potentially speeding up the growth of existing cancer cells or interfering with certain treatments.
- Safety of Replacement: The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Johns Hopkins Medicine state there are no known studies linking NRT use to cancer in humans, and emphasize that using NRT is significantly safer than continued smoking.
Again, you're not reading the full facts but rather the little titbits promoted by your fake doctor. As soon as nicotine is broken down from burning and smoking or chewing this happens...
Quote:Specifically, nicotine can be converted into tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines, such as N’-nitrosonornicotine (NNN) and 4-(methylnitrosamino)-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK). These particular metabolites are classified as potent carcinogens and are known to induce tumors in various organs.
You really need to stop making yourself look foolish by promoting this nut-job.
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(03-19-2026, 06:01 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Again, you're not reading the full facts but rather the little titbits promoted by your fake doctor. As soon as nicotine is broken down from burning and smoking or chewing this happens...
You really need to stop making yourself look foolish by promoting this nut-job.
You really need to take your inverted DOGMA elsewhere. The opposite of what you say is almost, if not always the true facts.
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03-19-2026, 12:37 PM
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Ardis said Nicotine has been tested to treat Rabies. And now the Drug companies are claiming you have to use a GMO form of the plant. Of course. So they can patent it. As you wouldn't be able to patent Nicotine patches.
Smoking tobacco might be bad for your health, but a genetically altered version of the plant might provide a relatively inexpensive cure for the deadly rabies virus.
Quote:AI Overview There is no known cure for symptomatic rabies once neurological symptoms appear; it is nearly 100% fatal. However, research has explored the role of the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR) in rabies infection and used genetically modified tobacco plants to produce antibodies for post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP)- Nicotine itself and other drugs that target nAChRs have been shown in animal models and clinical settings to potentially reduce aggressive behavior, a symptom associated with rabies.
- Antibodies from Tobacco Plants: Scientists have engineered genetically modified (GM) tobacco plants (Nicotiana benthamiana) to produce human monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) that can neutralize the rabies virus.
- These antibodies work by preventing the virus from attaching to nerve endings and traveling to the brain.
The Nicotine blocks the receptor sites from the rabies virus. Drug company scientists are now working on a GMO Tobacco plant they claim produces antibodies that might treat rabies. I say they probably were successful with just your basic Nitcotine patch. I can't find the scrubbed animal study today.
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(03-19-2026, 12:37 PM)Knows Wrote: Ardis said Nicotine has been tested to treat Rabies. And now the Drug companies are claiming you have to use a GMO form of the plant. Of course. So they can patent it. As you wouldn't be able to patent Nicotine patches. 
Smoking tobacco might be bad for your health, but a genetically altered version of the plant might provide a relatively inexpensive cure for the deadly rabies virus.
The Nicotine blocks the receptor sites from the rabies virus. Drug company scientists are now working on a GMO Tobacco plant they claim produces antibodies that might treat rabies. I say they probably were successful with just your basic Nitcotine patch. I can't find the scrubbed animal study today. 
There's no credible medical evidence nicotine prevents or treats rabies Knows
If anything, relying on that idea is downright dangerous.
Rabies is almost always fatal once the symptoms appear.
Imagine some poor sod actually listens to these quacks....oh, wait...
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(03-18-2026, 07:15 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Cool story.
And yet you keep chewing the stuff "for over a year".... 
Haven't had any Nicotine gum today. And no withdrawal symptoms? I feel great. The only thing I miss is the tasty cinnamon flavor of the gum. The gum makes me a little dizzy etc. The patches don't really have an effect as it is slow release.
Maybe I'll take a week off from Nicotine and see if there is any Withdrawal symptoms . So far nothing. Indicating the silly myths and half tangled lies about Nicotine. Are all false.
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03-19-2026, 01:07 PM
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(03-19-2026, 12:13 PM)Knows Wrote: You really need to take your inverted DOGMA elsewhere. The opposite of what you say is almost, if not always the true facts.
Try all you want to infer I'm lying here, but the data and facts speak for themselves about your fake 'Dr' and nicotine. I see you do the same thing every time you're shown you're incorrect. You change the subject matter and deny the facts pointed out to you.
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03-19-2026, 01:09 PM
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(03-19-2026, 12:58 PM)Knows Wrote: Haven't had any Nicotine gum today. And no withdrawal symptoms? I feel great. The only thing I miss is the tasty cinnamon flavor of the gum. The gum makes me a little dizzy etc. The patches don't really have an effect as it is slow release.
Maybe I'll take a week off from Nicotine and see if there is any Withdrawal symptoms . So far nothing. Indicating the silly myths and half tangled lies about Nicotine. Are all false.
Sounds like another predictable handy ""anecdote.""
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1939993/
https://actchealth.com/blogs/nicotine-gu...autious-of
https://www.verywellmind.com/addicted-to...at-2825031
Im sure you know best.
I mean, the gum is less harmful than tobacco.
But addictive nonetheless.
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