Nick Sortor Arrested Covering ICE Protesters.

[RichardHurt]

Jesus, the Biden admin was big into censorship, spying on political opponents, and colluding with MSM to hide the Biden Jr laptop, and his lies.

Biden may have been doing that but so has Trump so your argument is mute since you support that same thing.
Wanna give that another shot sport?

[putnam6]

Jesus, the Biden admin was big into censorship, spying on political opponents, and colluding with MSM to hide the Biden Jr laptop, and his lies.

If we only had another branch of the government that compiled examples worth considering....

It's about 100 pages, but pages 6-8 get down to the heart of the matter


https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/ur...-411-2.pdf



 
 

[DBCowboy]

Biden may have been doing that but so has Trump so your argument is mute since you support that same thing.
Wanna give that another shot sport?

Moot, not mute.

Please, use proper grammar.

[putnam6]

Moot, not mute.

Please, use proper grammar.

[RichardHurt]

Moot, not mute.

Please, use proper grammar.

Context and grammar must be troublesome.
I very much meant mute.

[RichardHurt]

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Very ?

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Would you feel alarmed if it were revealed that a foreign-born individual was not only funding Antifa but also brining Portland's government officials?

Sure, why not?

But I'm more concerned about the cultural pied piper of rats that makes your hypothetical question closer to an incontrovertible truth phrased as an inquiry out of courtesy.

The idea:

"George Soros uses corrupt Oregon and Portland officials, who fund and direct antifa to push a radical liberal protest agenda, to undermine the United States."

My insta-response to that is, "When did everyone lose their fucking minds to believe anything paranoia?"

And if that is awakened and enlightened Id rather dream in ignorance..

While you will never see my point, or understand my fear, I truly feel like Sarah Conner shaking a fucking fence screaming at the blissfully ignorant that they have no idea what they did.

And that is what I believe at my core. And what do I have left but peacefully voicing that dissenting opinion while I can?

So while that would certainly be troubling if true, I see THAT as only another contrived conspiracy harnessed by the right to villify the opinion of the left.

Still hoping for some "no fate" scenario with time travelling robots sent back from our dystopian future, but watching the pieces fall into place one by one as expected, and as spelled out by The Mandate For Leadership, and then within 9 months becoming the official "enemy within" is depressing.

Now having the opinion, "Trump 2.0 resembles Christian Nationalism and a Dictatorship," adds on a discomfort I've never experienced before. 

Fear. Questioning myself, "Is this still okay to say?" Mindful of the now broadly all-encompassing definition of domestic enemies.

Does it just look that way if you pay attention? Am I overreacting, or do you just not see it because you're not on the side of at least 80 million radical leftist enemies?  It feels like if you dont believe the Soros WEF climate conspiracy you are now a threat.  That's fucking scary.  Very Catch 22. 

I will be good, or at least try to be. But I am even questioning whether it's okay to make a gypsy joke to go with that song and post. 

Different feel to freedom now.

[UltraBudgie]

a discomfort I've never experienced before for sharing my opinion.

Ah, Trump the great unifier has finally made those on the left understand what conservatives have been feeling for years. I empathize, I truly do. I'm even too completely over it all for any schadenfreude.

So, some observations. Decade after decade, year after year, I've found new outrages of "omg what are they doing now" to rile myself up about. It never ends. It always seems to find a way to break through. "I know I'm cynical, but I really can't ignore this!"

And it gets worse. Look back 5 years, or ten. Oh, the naïveté! "That's all we were worried about? We didn't know how good we had it!". It has been thus, over and fucking over again for decades, for everyone with principle above partisanship in American politics.

Where we are now? Yes, circumstances are somewhat outrageous, I agree. And of course that's an understatement, because it always is. Just like last time. And you know what? Believe it or not, in 5 years both you and I are going to look back at now, and think: "That's all we were worried about? We didn't know how good we had it!".

It might seem cynical to think so. But see it enough, and you'll believe, too. And the damn thing is, noticing that pattern does fuck all to reduce any sense of pressing moral obligation to freak out over current events. Nor should it, sigh. It just adds a layer of inevitability and sense of impotence to it all. We have to keep struggling anyway.

And thus... freedom? All you can do is all you can do. There is nothing to lose that you won't.

Enjoy the journey.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Ah, Trump the great unifier has finally made those on the left understand what conservatives have been feeling for years. I empathize, I truly do. I'm even too completely over it all for any schadenfreude.

I just don't see it.  But I will try for one post. 

Are you sure it's revenge to an equal extent?

Did Biden ever actually go after anyone with MAGA posters? Were they classified as eneny of the state for echoing JK Rowling on Twitter, or just get culturally shamed and then defended? I also don't remember seeing the gay military being deployed to bust heads in cities that rebuke woke ideals. 

I remember there was a lot covid related authoritarianism. Even i almost went viral and mask shamed on a Skywest flight, but shut up and put it over my nose when someone pulled out the phone.  

That was the apex of my covid oppression. Jokes on them though, the vax card I flew with was forged. No one questioned it. 

Cant we say it was just the terrible response of idiots in Biden's cabinet and not part of any underlying agenda? 

That fucking virus and election loss did more for the right through the democrats rigid, oppressive, and scared response than anything else.  Its not out of nowhere or from nothing.

But if retribution it is...
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How about Musk just creates, "A Radical Lefist" disclaimer for comments on X.  That would balance the misinformation thing. 

I'll accept a retributive radical annotation on social media over enemy of the state.

The response seems unbalanced.  One seems more reactive, and this seems more planned all along.  It can be payback, but it can also be flimsy justification to go all out on everything and have something parallel to point to. 

Retribution goes by BTW laws.

/End post of seeing the other side. Somewhat painful experience. Feels like capitulation. So many many many edits needed. 

Half Baked Extra:

What if its more complex than that?  

Can I think the powers on the right, using China, engineered covid to cost Trump a term, to let the democrats fuck up so miserably, the country willingly demands Trump to do whatever. And thus the ultra conservative prayer breakfast secret government can do whatever. 

Because I no longer have to acknowledge the elephant if I think that.

[putnam6]

Sure, why not?

But I'm more concerned about the cultural pied piper of rats that makes your hypothetical question closer to an incontrovertible truth phrased as an inquiry out of courtesy.

The idea:

"George Soros uses corrupt Oregon and Portland officials, who fund and direct antifa to push a radical liberal protest agenda, to undermine the United States."

My insta-response to that is, "When did everyone lose their fucking minds to believe anything paranoia?"

And if that awakened Id rather dream. 

While you will never see my point, or understand my fear, I truly feel like Sarah Conner shaking a fucking fence screaming at the blissfully ignorant that they have no idea what they did.

And that is what I believe at my core. And what do I have left but peacefully voicing that dissenting opinion while I can?

So while that would certainly be troubling if true, I see THAT as only another contrived conspiracy harnessed by the right to villify the opinion of the left.

Still hoping for some "no fate" scenario with time travelling robots sent back from our dystopian future, but watching the pieces fall into place one by one as expected, and as spelled out by The Mandate For Leadership, and then within 9 months becoming the official "enemy within" is depressing. Now my opinion Trump 2.0 resembles Christian Nationalism and a Dictatorship, adds on a discomfort I've never experienced before for sharing my opinion.

Fear. Questioning myself, "Is this still okay to say?" because of the now broadly all-encompassing definition of domestic enemies.

Am I overreacting, or do you just not see it because your not on the side of at least 80 million radical liberal domestic enemies. It feels like if you dont believe in the conspiracy you are a threat. 

I will be good, or at least try to be. I am even questioning whether it's okay to make a gypsy joke to go with that song and post. 

Different feel to freedom now.

Hell, that's not what I said, IP.   

So here's a rambling, disjointed response that will likely make you fall asleep; it certainly made me fall asleep...   

Im just now entertaining the idea....  It's just an idea, it's not organized... 

Im just talking on a message board and interested in your thoughts, as you are the most likely Democrat on DI to offer viable, knowledgeable DNC opinion without drooling on your keyboard 

Im no threat to anybody, much less your cause or the 80 million radicals. LOL, if I am, then the cause ain't going to get very far.

Im one man, one voice, one vote. 99% of my life is my family, my faith, and my finances. At my age, it takes most of my energy and most of my emotions covering all 3. We are just talking...Im not your enemy, and I still think the left and right can coexist.  Isn't 3.8 million square miles enough space?

And while Im talking percentages, you do know usually OVER 40% of Americans think the country is heading in the wrong direction,  always, so 40% always have grievances with 80 million rabid radical leftists sounds like midterms are gonna be a blue bayou, and if the DNC anoints ACBG, perhaps even a blue Presidency 2028.

So why the manic leftist energy, if we have an 80 million-strong radical left, RELAX methodically consolidate your gains and concentrate on midterms like every PEACEFUL opposition party does when they lose an election? or constant protests and alienate the other 260 million

It's what the conservatives did from 2021 to November 2024, which suggests  OMB is better at rallying the populace than any candidate the left had or has.  No amount of Antifa LARPing in Portland is going to change that, but it may spur nutters on both sides.

There's potential in Portland for either side to become extra extreme, but I don't think it's there yet, and it's given Trump a reason to push the envelope. Closing the government was a bad idea, cause he will push the envelope further and further right to the edge. Mostly to stick it to the DNC head honchos and the media, BUT he can't screw around too much, though; he has to think about the midterms and 2028

For the record, Im not taking Antifa/Soros on anyone's word alone... PERIOD

I need concrete evidence beyond these 80 million dollars, and I will wait and see, just as I did with the Vindman impeachment evidence 

My question wasn't ambiguous at all... and remains feasible enough that it warrants discussion

"Would you feel alarmed if it were revealed that a foreign-born individual was not only funding Antifa but also bribing Portland's government officials?

As Ive pointed out, Ive scoffed at the" IDEA" for 8 years, and now Im an asshole because I include it in the lexicon of potential reasons because the seemingly dysfunctional Portland city government is not concerned about the constant disruption of a Federal facility operating with lawful orders.

Hell, after watching some vids of the Antifa arrested, it feels like there's a mixture, some are hardcore, some are getting there, but quite a few are LARPers, and some are just scared kids, you know, like the DNC itself.

More and more Im thinking the politicians and a few movers and shakers set up the Antifa for the low-level noise, Portland is nowhere near the fiery and mostly peaceful Kenosha... and it's not going to be because that wasnt organic either and it was whipped up into a frenzy like Minneapolis was and other hot spots... 

Also, for the record, if there are 80 million radical leftists, how in the hell did the left lose the Presidency

How did the left lose Congress? 

Isn't it a slight possibility that radical leftists finally alienated enough of the more moderate Democrats to ensure the loss

Creating a fractured DNC party focused on FEAR motivation that mirrors the fractured ANTIFA effort in Portland, if it were actually organically popular in the "city of roses," wouldn't the protests have a significantly larger attendance?

They would be if there really were 80 million radical leftists, but it's probably closer to 23 million radical leftists trying to scare the shit out of the dwindling remaining 57 million moderate left.

One can be a radical revolutionary only for so long before the manic, paranoid, intense emotions flame out.

The radical left has been fighting OMB for eight years, and he still isn't vanquished hell, if anything, they made him stronger.

For perspective, Fidel took 6 years to topple Bautista.

The DNC/Leftists of today don't even have a single coherent leader to energize a peaceful political revolution.

The blue voting base is hemorrhaging voters, thus the increasingly angry, dysfunctional, mostly pink LARPer Antifa fist 

The Portland Antifa feels like a mixture of Larpers and anarchists, with some form of financial and communal support from a few mover and shakers in the underground world of Antifa. Seemingly less organized than the eastern chapters, the main concern is setting off the lone nutter like the azzhat who tried to drive up the steps of city hall in Los Angeles.

Generally empathic response from the local government is fine, but local governments usurping laws and not imposing punishment for unlawful protesting is another matter.

The cause would get more local converts with constant peaceful protesting, being less disruptive, in a safe park  
That takes too long, and the leftist momentum is already waning, thus the left's leaders' and followers' disjointed manic energy. 

If deportations were widely unpopular, it would be overtly noticeable, and it wouldn't have to be sold so hard.

Like Karen Bass semi-hysterically suggested at 6:30 am live this morning.

That every Los Angeles citizen is gripped with deportation fears.. 

This week, manic and paranoid Los Angelans packed SoFi and Dodger Stadium, and dozens of other public events, while they were so concerned about being arrested. It's complete BS 

And for the record, everybody posts hypothetical shit virtually every other post....