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(01-15-2026, 10:34 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Doesn't matter how close or far away the shots are.
Self defense is self defense.
To whine because they were from nearby .... STUPID.
Without independent investigation or allowing a civil lawsuit to go forward against the ICE agent, there can be no discovery or any real and probing investigation to prove self-defense or not. I think that ICE agent, and many others, are militaristic without any proper police training with civilians nor police training in how to keep themselves safe. It may be in this case this ICE agent just lost it and fell back on his militaristic killing mindset, which should alarm everyone.
It's not whining to point out your government judged the situation before any investigation was started, then did a cover up and are now hoping being silent about it will make everyone go away, just like the Epstein Files, well that isn't going to happen.
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(01-15-2026, 11:25 AM)quintessentone Wrote: [...] I think that ICE agent, and many others, are militaristic without any proper police training with civilians nor police training in how to keep themselves safe. It may be in this case this ICE agent just lost it and fell back on his militaristic killing mindset, which should alarm everyone.
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This is somewhat painting with a broad brush. I'd actually expect military personel to be trained for operations in a civilian setting. Can't speak for this particular agent, however.
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
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(01-15-2026, 11:30 AM)IgnorantGod Wrote: This is somewhat painting with a broad brush. I'd actually expect military personel to be trained for operations in a civilian setting. Can't speak for this particular agent, however.
They are mostly trained in immigration laws and the rights of citizens pertaining to those specific laws, which it appears they don't follow in the many instances as those that I posted.
People are asking a Judge in Minneapolis to allow the civil lawsuit against Ross to proceed, as well as other protesters want lawsuits against certain other agents to be heard because the thugs sprayed them in the face with pepper spray when they were do their protesting thing and not causing any violence.
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"The lawsuit was filed in December 2025, weeks before an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer killed Minneapolis mother Renee Good
during a confrontation. But the case took on fresh urgency after the shooting, with disputed circumstances that have caused a bitter rift between state and federal authorities.Ms Good’s death was not discussed at the hearing on Jan 13 before US District Judge Katherine Menendez, who heard arguments on protesters’ request for an order restricting the use of force by ICE agents while the case proceeds. The judge said she would issue a ruling by Jan 16."
Minneapolis protesters urge judge to curb immigration officials’ use of force | The Straits Times
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A Chicago Judge rethinking dismissing a lawsuit.
"U.S. District Judge Sarah Ellis said Thursday she has concerns about dismissing this case – especially after the shooting death of woman by an ICE agent in Minneapolis this week – because restrictions she put in place on agents' use of force in the Chicago area would be tossed out if the lawsuit is dropped."If I dismiss this case, the preliminary injunction ceases to exist. And certainly, given my ruling, I believe that the evidence presented in this case justify the need for a preliminary injunction to govern the actions of federal agents when they're interacting with legal observers, journalists and protesters," Ellis said. "It doesn't give me much comfort in reading news reports that someone who in some news reports anyway was described as a legal observer, was shot yesterday in Minneapolis.""
Judge won't yet dismiss lawsuit over use of force during Midway Blitz, citing deadly Minneapolis shooting by ICE agent
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01-15-2026, 11:47 AM
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(01-15-2026, 11:30 AM)IgnorantGod Wrote: This is somewhat painting with a broad brush. I'd actually expect military personel to be trained for operations in a civilian setting. Can't speak for this particular agent, however.
Yeah, Ross was military before joining the CBP. He then joined ICE back in 2015, during Obama's last term.
Quote:Jonathan Ross, the ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) agent i was hired by ICE in 2015.
Multiple reliable sources, including court records, media reports from outlets like the Associated Press, USA Today, NBC News, and the Minnesota Star Tribune, confirm this timeline.
Ross previously served in the U.S. Border Patrol from 2007 to 2015 before transitioning to ICE as a deportation officer in Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), based in Minnesota.where he has served for over a decade as of 2026.
This hiring occurred during the Obama administration.
These are the facts
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(01-15-2026, 11:47 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, Ross was military before joining the CBP. He then joined ICE back in 2015, during Obama's last term.
These are the facts
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“Jonathan Ross, the ICE officer involved in the shooting, has extensive training and experience, including military service in Iraq and over a decade in federal law enforcement. He has served as a deportation officer since 2015 and has been involved in various roles, including as a firearms instructor and a member of the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, indicating a high level of training in law enforcement operations.”
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(01-15-2026, 11:58 AM)KrustyKrab Wrote: “Jonathan Ross, the ICE officer involved in the shooting, has extensive training and experience, including military service in Iraq and over a decade in federal law enforcement. He has served as a deportation officer since 2015 and has been involved in various roles, including as a firearms instructor and a member of the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force, indicating a high level of training in law enforcement operations.”
All of that means nothing if he can't or chooses to not follow simple training protocol.
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Trump has given the Minnesota azzhat leaders every opportunity to do what is correct for ALL of Minnesota.
They have chosen not to
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Eric Daugherty
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BREAKING:
President Trump threatens to INVOKE THE INSURRECTION ACT in Minnesota
after federal vehicles ransacked, weapons and documents STOLEN
DO IT, 47!
"If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don’t obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the Patriots of I.C.E., who are only trying to do their job,
I will institute the INSURRECTION ACT, which many Presidents have done before me,
and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great State.
Thank you for you attention to this matter!
President DJT"
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if true...
What is
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for $1000
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Boom..I called it days ago we will find out they were not married..sure enough.
Thats also why the GoFundme had her REAL NAME...TILSEN
Jack has Libby Emmons joining him to discuss LARPING and also that THERE IS NO MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE FOR RENEE GOOD & BECCA GOOD...JUST A NAME CHANGE DOCUMENT.
@JackPosobiec
discusses the WILD statement Becca made regarding "WHY DID THEY HAVE REAL BULLETS." and asks Libby if she was unaware of the consequences. Libby says when SHE had a kid she didn't go down to see the protest because her child was her priority.
@libbyemmons
brings up the great point that Joy Reid was thinking White Privilege would keep these IMPEDERS safe and that was NOT THE CASE. Jack says "THEIR CANONICAL WHITENESS MAKES THEM THINK THAT WILL BE THEIR SHIELD..TURNS OUT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN THE CASE." Jack says every video they are ALWAYS just doing something and lying about it and NOT being harassed for no reason whatsoever. Libby says JUST COMPLY...you will get arrested..you will be a hero & Mark Ruffalo may sing your praises. Correct..lessons we learned as children. GIVE THESE LIBERAL WHITE LADIES THE TALK LOLOLOLOL Libby also says they are coordinating this on SIGNAL.
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Whistleblower releases ICE documents with their names. This person claims that Tarrio Enrique, Proud Boys leader, is on that list. Makes total sense. It appears they are wiping clean every site where that list was once accessed, but they are too late.
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"EXCLUSIVE: Proud Boys Symbol Spotted on ICE Officer During Detroit Operation"
EXCLUSIVE: Proud Boys Symbol Spotted on ICE Officer During Detroit Operation – Dearborn Blog
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(01-15-2026, 12:58 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Whistleblower releases ICE documents with their names. This person claims that Tarrio Enrique, Proud Boys leader, is on that list. Makes total sense. It appears they are wiping clean every site where that list was once accessed, but they are too late.
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"EXCLUSIVE: Proud Boys Symbol Spotted on ICE Officer During Detroit Operation"
EXCLUSIVE: Proud Boys Symbol Spotted on ICE Officer During Detroit Operation – Dearborn Blog
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If we let socialist become mayors shouldn't we let proud boys be ice agents?
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