New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[ANNEE]

Will all due respect, Annee, it truly bites, regardless of which "side" throws it.

I am aware and agree. 

But the way Communist is thrown around in here Godwin would be rolling in his grave.

[argentus]

I am aware and agree. 

But the way Communist is thrown around in here Godwin would be rolling in his grave.

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I don't like that either. I think a person should read up on Communism, Socialism, Fascism, and Objectivism before brandying about any of those terms.  ETA:   Mike Godwin is alive and well.    Too bad Ayn Rand is not;  she would be shaking her head sadly.

[Vermilion]

Or — Nazi — Communist — etc.  Who throws those in the mix almost daily. 

Behavior of ICE compared to Hitler’s henchmen is a valid comparison.

Or at least what they could become.

“Behavior of ICE compared to Hitler’s henchmen is a valid comparison.”

Lawfully deporting people who are here illegally back to their home country is not the same as rounding people up and stuffing them in gas chambers.

Your comparison is invalid and asinine.

[KrustyKrab]

Or — Nazi — Communist — etc.  Who throws those in the mix almost daily. 

Behavior of ICE compared to Hitler’s henchmen is a valid comparison.

Or at least what they could become.

The left does and has constantly.  There’s a useful idiot on here that actually said I stood with hitler and the Holocaust which is not only stupid but a ridiculous thing to say.   But he’s a bumbling fool so I do my best to ignore anything he post anyways.  

I don’t see how you see ICE, who is just enforcing current existing laws on the books, as anything close to hitler and his boys.  
You’re brainwashed annee and believe anything and everything your team tells you to believe.

[ANNEE]

The left does and has constantly.  

The Left The Left The Left

I’m actually capable of understanding both sides. 

Some see only what they want to see.

[Truthhurts]

No, that 10% cap was introduced by Bernie Sanders.

The fact you think AOC is intellectually capable of such things is troubling..... for you.

I will never grasp your perspective, essentially labeling everyone as foolish. You are aware that your side has that distinction, correct? You all hardly comprehend what is happening in the world until your preferred propaganda source informs you. 

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Maybe because it’s bares repeating.  It’s the elephant in the room that you or anyone else on the left cares to admit because it exposes your hypocrisy and kills your narrative.   That’s the reality that you’re ignoring.   Gotta give credit where credit is due, right?   Why can’t any of you admit that if Biden had enforced our immigration laws that none of this would probably be happening to the degree it is.  

Without all the leftist BS rhetoric….What did I say that you don’t believe? 

Have you forgotten that Obama deported 3million illegals making him the president with the highest number of deportations in US history?  

He even built the “cages” y’all were whining about when Trump was in office.   

The hypocrisy is a bit much.

You dont even acknowledge my points, do you? 

Where's their crime problem? That's the major selling point. 

*If* there are 20 million immigrants, *and* California tries to give sanctuary to 25% of them, **and** Trump hasn't even deported as much as Obama yet, where is OUR crime problem Joe caused?  We should still have at least 4.9 million illegals, or thereabouts, right?

Do they all live in Modesto and Stockton where the outlaw bikers used to make meth? Because Central Valley is agricultural and leans conservative, but also has way higher crime rates than the coastal liberal cites. 

Can you fit them all into The Conservative Central Valley?Into Oakland? Sacramento? 

Will ANYONE take my challenge?? 

San Fransisco, San Diego, and San Jose all recorded violent crime rates under 500/100,000 and recorded less than 28 murders each.  San Jose had a violent crime rate 1/4 that of rural America (194.6) at 53/100,000.

So I'll make a bet...

If ANYONE can find me a state that's safest 3 large cities of over 300,000 residents have a lower 2025 crime rate than those 3, I will admit California is one of many decaying cesspools of illegals, and never post an opinion opposing ICE's necessity here again. Maybe even leave in shame of losing? 

I dont think anyone can, and I think our stats fly in the face of  "the illegal problem" in my state. 

City/population/homicide rate/crime rate (per 100,000)

1. San Jose - 980,000 - 2.55 - 53
2. San Diego - 1,395,000 - 2.0 - 430
3. San Frascisco - 832,000 - 3.32 - 467

[RazorV66]

You dont even acknowledge my points, do you? And you think liberals double down on ignorance?

Where's the problem? 


*If* there are 20 million immigrants, *and* California tries to give sanctuary to 25% of them, **and** Trump hasn't even deported as much as Obama yet, where is OUR crime problem Joe caused?  We should still have at least 4.9 million illegals, or thereabouts, right?

Do they all live in Modesto and Stockton where the outlaw bikers used to make Meth? Because Central Valley is agricultural and leans faitlrly conservative, but also has way higher crime rates then the coastal cites. 

Can you fit them all in The Conservative Cebtral Valley?Oakland? Sacramento? 



Will ANYONE take my challenge?

San Fransisco, San Diego, and San Jose all recorded violent crime rates under 500/100,000 and recorded less than 28 murders each.  San Jose had a violent crime rate 1/4 that of conservative rural America (194.6) at 53/100,000.

So I'll make a bet...

If ANYONE can find me a state that's safest 3 large cities of over 300,000 residents have a lower 2025 crime rate than those 3, I will admit Califonia is a decaying cesspool of illegals, and never post an opposing opinion ICE's necessity again. Maybe even leave in shame?

I dont think anyone can, and it flies in the face of "the illegal problem"

City/population/homicide rate/crime rate (per 100,000)

1. San Jose - 980,000 - 2.55 - 53
2. San Diego - 1,395,000 - 2.0 - 430
3. San Frascisco - 832,000 - 3.32 - 467

None of that matters, they are still here illegally while draining resources that could help legal American citizens.

[putnam6]

Or — Nazi — Communist — etc.  Who throws those in the mix almost daily. 

Behavior of ICE compared to Hitler’s henchmen is a valid comparison.

Such unmitigated overreactionary leftist paranoid bullshit...

Trump is the Cat in the Hat to the left's goldfish in the bowl.
 



Rudolf Diels (the Gestapo's first chief) estimated that 500–700 people were murdered during the initial wave of Nazi terror from March to October 1933, with the Gestapo playing a central role from late April onward in arrests, interrogations, and executions targeting political opponents (primarily communists, socialists, and trade unionists), as well as some Jews and other perceived enemies

at the current pace it will take ICE 100 years too match Hitlers henchmen first 6 months

[KrustyKrab]

The Left The Left The Left

I’m actually capable of understanding both sides. 

Some see only what they want to see.

I don’t think you are capable.   

“Some see only what they want to see.“

That’d be you to a T, like saying or agreeing as you did, that she swerved to miss him and he was never hit when there’s video with absolute proof both statements are patently false.   Yep, you saw what you wanted to see, not what actually happened.  Crazy stuff.