New video shows officer's perspective in ICE shooting of Renee Good

[quintessentone]

It was supposedly Ross's cell phone earlier I had speculated it was body cam footage.

So far all that has been seen is cell phone footage of Ross's walk around if there is body cam footage, I haven't found it released publicly

Regardless its been posted in thread...

If he was wearing body cam and he left it turned on then we would have a better idea of the distances involved, whereas holding a cell phone the positioning would have likely been further away from his body thereby reducing distances. But we will never see any evidence like that if it does exist because there is no transparency with your government.

[CriticalStinker]

You are correct, he was trained, to eliminate lethal threats towards him and his fellow officers, he did just that.  Her being their was completely unnecessary, but planned by her and others to interfere with federal agents and their duties.  

I'm sure you ignore the context that, not 6 months ago, that agent was drug over 300 feet by an illegal he was trying to arrest that was also fleeing from federal agents. 

If someone slaps you in the face, would you not immediately think that you are going to get slapped in the face again if someone raises their hand to you in the same manner? He reacted as officers are trained to when someone attempts to run them over with a vehicle.

I don’t think a jury would convict him based on how fast it happened and the circumstances.

But it’s just odd to me the government was willing to say she was a domestic terrorist within hours, and not examine any of the actions of the agent.

There’s no way to know now, but she likely just freaked out. I think it’s obvious she was trying to turn away and flee the situation, something she’d likely be charged with… But it doesn’t look like there was intent to kill anyone from her.

Some in the “small federal government” party sure are rooting for the Feds to have much more latitude over citizens. 

Fleeing is a felony, but it’s rare police are supposed to shoot someone for fleeing. You have their picture, you have the license plate, charge them in court. It’s part of our rights to be afforded a trial whether you agree with the actions of someone alleged of a crime.

Your logic that he was dragged just months prior only highlights he broke protocol twice. You’re willing to say she put herself in that situation while using the same logic for someone who is trained and supposed to be a public servant. They’re not supposed to get in front of vehicles or bust windows and reach in… because it puts himself in danger just like her and her wife did.

I think it’s more likely they’re both in the wrong. And we have to ask ourselves if we hold armed Feds to a higher standard than soccer moms who freak out over things most of us would just dismiss… much less being surrounded by people who resemble militants more than police.

[Kurokage]

It's very clear that ICE seem to be recruiting just about anybody to do the job, which is why the shooting could've occurred due to lack of training and Agent John Ross being not fit for the job after his previous accident.

ICE recruitment story

Anti-ICE activist infiltrates department and is offered job — despite huge red flags.An anti-ICE activist managed to successfully infiltrate the group, even being offered a job as a deportation officer.
Columnist Laura Jedeed confirmed she had not only been offered a position in the Immigration and Customs Enforcement wing, but had her health and fitness checks signed off in advance.

Not only were the checks signed off as "completed" before the date had passed, but the Slate columnist claimed she'd cleared the background checks without having to provide much information — and despite her background throwing up multiple red flags.
"I clicked through to my application tracking page," she wrote. "They’d sent my final offer on Sept. 30, it said, and I had allegedly accepted. 'Welcome to Ice… Your duty location is New York, New York. Your EOD was on Tuesday, September 30th, 2025.'"

”By all appearances, I was a deportation officer. Without a single signature on agency paperwork, ICE had officially hired me. Perhaps, if I’d accepted, they would have demanded my pre-employment paperwork, done a basic screening, realized their mistake, and fired me immediately."
"And yet, the pending and upcoming tasks list suggested a very different outcome. My physical fitness test had been initiated on Oct. 6, it said: three days in the future. My medical check had apparently been completed on Oct. 6."
The fact that she got hired left her shocked.

"The catch, however, is that there’s only one 'Laura Jedeed' with an internet presence, and it takes about five seconds of Googling to figure out how I feel about ICE, the Trump administration, and the country’s general right-wing project. My social media pops up immediately, usually with a preview of my latest posts condemning Trump’s unconstitutional, authoritarian power grab. Scroll down and you’ll find articles with titles like 'What I Saw in LA Wasn’t an Insurrection; It Was a Police Riot' and 'Inside Mike Johnson’s Ties to a Far-Right Movement to Gut the Constitution.'

[UltraBudgie]

It's very clear that ICE seem to be recruiting just about anybody to do the job, which is why the shooting could've occurred due to lack of training and Agent John Ross being not fit for the job after his previous accident.

ICE recruitment story

They have been pulling in officers from outside agencies to assist in the recent surge.

[UltraBudgie]

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/immigr...ied-by-ice

[putnam6]

Your logic that he was dragged just months prior only highlights he broke protocol twice. You’re willing to say she put herself in that situation while using the same logic for someone who is trained and supposed to be a public servant. They’re not supposed to get in front of vehicles or bust windows and reach in… because it puts himself in danger just like her and her wife did.

I think it’s more likely they’re both in the wrong. And we have to ask ourselves if we hold armed Feds to a higher standard than soccer moms who freak out over things most of us would just dismiss… much less being surrounded by people who resemble militants more than police.

"Soccer Mom" respectfully CS Ms. Good didn't have custody of 2 of her older children, it's not as unusual as this used to be, but if she were a rando "soccer mom," she certainly isn't with her 2 other children now, just 12 and 14

Its been alledged they were members of a disruptive anti ICE group. Doesn't mean I agree with the result, and she deserved what happened. I dont like the end result, even though she spent 3 minutes prior to blaring her car horn warning of ICEs arrival. 

But I do like how many already convicted criminals ICE has removed from Minnesota for the common good,lets remember that same raid took some of those criminals off the street.

[quintessentone]

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Keyword there: REASONABLE.

That ICE reject did not act reasonably as any trained police officer would. He got her license plate number then started to immediately escalate a nothingburger situation and put himself in harm's way and created this situation where he acted in a reckless and murderous way.

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"Five use-of-force experts told the Star Tribune that shooting at a moving vehicle is generally discouraged and some called the Minneapolis shooting a “bad shooting,” yet others insisted it may be premature to rule out a reasonable fear of imminent harm—mirroring national reporting that legal opinion is split and that immunities for federal officers can make prosecution difficult [sup][1] [3][/sup]. Sahan Journal and other outlets quote attorneys who conclude the lethality appears disproportionate, while also noting the legal hurdles to charging federal agents even when outside observers deem the force excessive [sup][3][/sup]."

Jonathan Ross ice agent excessive force complaints

[Kurokage]

They have been pulling in officers from outside agencies to assist in the recent surge.

The person who applied to ICE wasn't an officer (read the story). The application was rushed through and accepted, without any real checks being done...

From the story.

 Not only were the checks signed off as "completed" before the date had passed, but the Slate columnist claimed she'd cleared the background checks without having to provide much information — and despite her background throwing up multiple red flags.
"I clicked through to my application tracking page," she wrote. "They’d sent my final offer on Sept. 30, it said, and I had allegedly accepted. 'Welcome to Ice… Your duty location is New York, New York. Your EOD was on Tuesday, September 30th, 2025.'"

[putnam6]

For perspective, 4 deaths and 7 injuries in over 300,000 removals is an incredibly low number. Certainly doesn't lend itself that ICE is the Gestapo or even the military in OBAA

We all want zero deaths, zero injuries but it's not realistic and we can't continue to pay for all of this, questionable subsidies and immigration, fraudulent or not

REALITY 

https://ground.news/article/fbi-investig...ing_a16e5e

• Data show a broader pattern: 44 immigration-related gun incidents since June 2025, including four deaths and seven injuries, the Marshall Project and The Trace report.
  

AI Grok number of ICE,CBP removals

 Likely in the range of 300,000–450,000 (accounting for ~half or more of the cumulative total since January, based on reported doubling of daily rates and FY breakdowns). This is approximate, as detailed monthly breakdowns since June are not consistently public, and some sources (e.g., MPI estimates ~340,000 total for FY 2025 ending September 30, 2025) suggest strong activity in the latter half of 2025.

[Kurokage]

For perspective, 4 deaths and 7 injuries in over 300,000 removals is an incredibly low number. Certainly doesn't lend itself that ICE is the Gestapo or even the military in OBAA

https://ground.news/article/fbi-investig...ing_a16e5e

AI Grok number of ICE,CBP removals

That's not what I get??
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i...s-timeline

thirty-two people died in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) custody in 2025 – making it the agency’s deadliest year in more than two decades, as the Trump administration moved to detain a record number of people.
Some of those who died in detention had arrived in the US recently, seeking asylum. Others had arrived years ago, some as young children. Some had been apprehended on criminal charges or had served time for convictions; others had been picked up in the administration’s indiscriminate ICE raids.
They died of seizure and heart failure, stroke, respiratory failure, tuberculosis or suicide. Some died at ICE detention centers and field offices, others after they had been transferred to hospitals, but were still under ICE custody. In some cases, their families and lawyers have alleged, they died of neglect, after repeatedly trying and failing to get medical care.
The number of deaths, 32, matched the previous record, set in 2004. These deaths occurred as the Trump administration ramped up its immigration operations, detaining a record number of people in December. The agency was holding 68,440 people in detention in mid-December; nearly 75% of them had no criminal convictions. December was also the deadliest month in ICE custody – six people died.

https://www.thetrace.org/2025/12/immigra...s-tracker/

Using Gun Violence Archive data and news clips, The Trace has identified 16 incidents in which immigration agents opened fire and another 15 incidents in which agents held someone at gunpoint since the crackdown began. At least three people have been shot observing or documenting immigration raids, and five people have been shot while driving away from traffic stops or evading an enforcement action. On September 30, agents raided a Chicago apartment building and held half-asleep tenants and their children at gunpoint.